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I was about to say there isn't much more exciting things coming after IS500 is officially launched. The next few years will be about their mainstream products. But apparently Mike knows something big...
 

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as long as we get a glimpse or someone gets to spin the rumor mill this year. I'm still expecting something special for the LS, LC and the next RX
 

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A Reddit post claims Lexus will launch a TX three-row crossover, an RZ450e EV, and new GX550 and LX600 models. Trademarks hint that the rumors might be legit.

Lexus RZ450e: It's Electric
Lexus has already confirmed that it will launch its first electric vehicle soon, and showed a concept called the LF-Z Electrified that previews this upcoming EV crossover. The company filed a trademark for the name RZ450e, and we expect this model to look similar to the concept car and feature a dual-motor all-wheel-drive powertrain.
 

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I'm just gonna leave this here. The new Tundra with TTV6 + E-four pairing the new 10 speed auto should've been the hybrid configuration of the 5th LS. Oh well.
Tundra is not E-Four.

With all the hindsight it's easy to say the multi-stage is a failure since it's too complex. Undersized ICE + undersized battery + overengineered transmission. It is still a very impressive system since it can beat cars with much higher power-to-weight ratio. But to achieve that they gave the LS/LC rally car-like gear ratios which just don't match their character. I think the problem is the system is already so expensive they have no budget for a larger/newer ICE or battery pack to really give it good performance.

This is a rare example of Toyota developing a technology just for the sake of doing it. P2 hybrids scale up very well at high output applications and Toyota should know that: they've been doing it in Hino trucks and LMP1 race cars for almost a decade.

Is multi-stage a very advanced piece of engineering? Yes. But is it worth it? No.
 
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Tundra is not E-Four.
It was a hypothetical example with the E-Four system being implemented in Lexus vehicles soon.
With all the hindsight it's easy to say the multi-stage is a failure since it's too complex. Undersized ICE + undersized battery + overengineered transmission. It is still a very impressive system since it can beat cars with much higher power-to-weight ratio. But to achieve that they gave the LS/LC rally car-like gear ratios which just don't match their character. I think the problem is the system is already so expensive they have no budget for a larger/newer ICE or battery pack to really give it good performance.

This is a rare example of Toyota developing a technology just for the sake of doing it. P2 hybrids scale up very well at high output applications and Toyota should know that: they've been doing it in Hino trucks and LMP1 race cars for almost a decade.

Is multi-stage a very advanced piece of engineering? Yes. But is it worth it? No.
This is so true. Something tells me we're not going to see the multi-stage hybrid after this generation.
 

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For those of you hoping for a new V8:

LS 500/500h, no V8 since 2018
Land Cruiser 300, no V8
LX 600: Land Cruiser and LX parallel each other and we know the LX is replacing the Land Cruiser in North America
Tundra: no V8, the flagship motor is the new V35A-FTS + hybrid
Sequoia: will be the SUV version of the Tundra, so <1% chance of a V8
LC F: trademark abandoned
LS F: never actually trademarked

If there was ever going to be a new V8, it would have debuted on the Tundra out of sheer volume. It did not. With the above, there is no case or way for the LX 600 to have a V8.

2UR-GSE is the last V8, and it is in the IS 500, LC 500, RC F and GX 460 (not same tune, I know) as the swan song, probably until 2023-2024.

I would stop hoping for a new TTV8 if I was you. The Tundra debut confirms it's not happening.
 
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For those of you hoping for a new V8:

LS 500/500h, no V8 since 2018
Land Cruiser 300, no V8
LX 600: Land Cruiser and LX parallel each other and we know the LX is replacing the Land Cruiser in North America
Tundra: no V8, the flagship motor is the new V35A-FTS + hybrid
Sequoia: will be the SUV version of the Tundra, so <1% chance of a V8
LC F: trademark abandoned
LS F: never actually trademarked

If there was ever going to be a new V8, it would have debuted on the Tundra out of sheer volume. It did not. With the above, there is no case or way for the LX 600 to have a V8.

2UR-GSE is the last V8, and it is in the IS 500, LC 500, RC F and GX 460 (not same tune, I know) as the swan song, probably until 2023-2024.

I would stop hoping for a new TTV8 if I was you. The Tundra debut confirms it's not happening.

Carmaker1 confirmed an LC with a TTV8 in it though...

I was also given insider knowledge from somewhere that it will be a rare engine, but not as rare as the Blackwing V8 engine that was there for Cadillac. So, y'all can gnaw on that too...
 

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If you peek at ClubLexus, Carmaker has recently been outed as quoting other pages and people as sources, me for one. I’m not as much on the “Carmaker knows all” train as I once was.

The LC F trademark was abandoned less than a month ago, so the whole project likely died since Carmaker’s “scoop.” We know the LC F was planned - it was even shown to dealers at one point. The question is when it died.

We know the whole TTV8 project was killed fairly late term, it just seems like the models it was to roll out in are being dropped from the roadmap later than planned.