Faisal Sheikh

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I don't think anyone will seriously compare IS500 with TLX Type-S. Do you feel if it's faster than GS-F/Pre-facelift RC-F?

There is an embargo on impressions. An educated guess can be made by looking at specs. RCF officially had a time of 4.4 seconds and 12.5 seconds (pre-face lift) and the GS-F had a time of 4.5 seconds and 12.8 seconds according to official Lexus brochure specs. Best tested time was 4.2 seconds for RCF and 4.4 seconds for GSF by C&D. There was a freak 3.9 seconds by R&T for the 2015 RCF (PCOTY, 2015), but it sounded like an error.

Officially, IS500 0-60 mph in 4.5 seconds. Quarter mile has not been yet released, but possibly the IS500 might be close to the RCF in a straight line. The unknowns are, the narrower rear tire/wheel/axle potentially hampering off the line traction.

p.s. Worth noting, despite the slightly shorter final drive/launch control on the 2020+, C&D tested pre-face lifted and post-face lifted RCF at about the same.

While we expect the Track Edition to join virtually all of the RC F's competitors in the sub-four-second-to-60-mph club, the standard RC F misses the cut with a 4.1-second time—a mere 0.1 second quicker than the previous RCF.
 

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I don't think anyone will seriously compare IS500 with TLX Type-S.

Once the reviews for the TLX were out, I think you're right. Before that, Acura's hype machine made it look like it could be an interesting alternative to the IS 500.
 

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Once the reviews for the TLX were out, I think you're right. Before that, Acura's hype machine made it look like it could be an interesting alternative to the IS 500.

Type S is the most overhyped badge we have maybe ever seen. We are talking Camry TRD or Sonata turbo performance.

To make matters worse this is an all new engine with 2 less liters and 2 less cylinders with one turbo and makes 21 MPG

The IS 500 with a much older engine with 2 more cylinders and 2 more liters with 122 more horsepower makes 20 MPG.

tHeY aRe An EnG!nE c0mPanY
 

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Type S is the most overhyped badge we have maybe ever seen. We are talking Camry TRD or Sonata turbo performance.

To make matters worse this is an all new engine with 2 less liters and 2 less cylinders with one turbo and makes 21 MPG

The IS 500 with a much older engine with 2 more cylinders and 2 more liters with 122 more horsepower makes 20 MPG.

tHeY aRe An EnG!nE c0mPanY
hOnDa Is ThE bEsT eNgInE mAnUfAcTuReR iN tHe WoRlD

My a$$, if they are really that great, then why they have never made a road car that can charge its way to and beyond 200 mph? They've never even made production V8 engines, let alone V10s and V12s, they only have one production car that makes more than 400hp from the factory.
 

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Y'know, I think I get the criticism. For awhile I felt the car was being a bit unfairly judged on account of it's flaws, but I totally get it. For not much more, there are other options which do the 'do all sedan' a bit better. Or to put it in a different light, there are other vehicles that perform certain aspects that the TLX attempts to achieve significantly better. An ES is vastly more spacious with an elegant interior and calming ride. The S-Line Audis deliver great power and AWD performance. And of course, any sports car be it 86, Supra, etc would whoop it in the handling department. That's not even mentioning the engine and transmission combo. Every one of those vehicles have more engaging powertrains. Turbocharged or not. It's a deeply flawed sport sedan that in the face of its competition, and at this point in time can be considered an also-ran. I love its styling, and the feel of its interior, and perhaps it's 'jack of all trades master of none' perception keeps me coming back. But I have a strong feeling that despite that, should I get in the seat of say, a RWD IS 350/500, or an ES, I'll find more to love there underneath than I would the TLX.
 

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Having seen TLXs populate like the common cold, I do like the road presence the TLX brings to the table. Similar to the TL back in the day. The RWD Lexus IS though is still my favorite in the Japanese selection of sedans just because of how slick and under the radar the design is.
 

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Having seen TLXs populate like the common cold, I do like the road presence the TLX brings to the table. Similar to the TL back in the day. The RWD Lexus IS though is still my favorite in the Japanese selection of sedans just because of how slick and under the radar the design is.
How interesting! Over in So-Cal I've hardly seen the TLX around, meanwhile I've seen my fair share of IS, of which its styling certainly grew on my by comparison!
 

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Yet another "our NSX factory doesn't have anything better to do" edition.