MKV Toyota Supra Master Thread

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Nearly Half of All 2023 Toyota GR Supras Sold Have Been Sticks

A whopping 47 percent of buyers have opted for three pedals since Toyota launched the manual Supra.
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Doesn't look extreme enough for a GRMN. Was thinking they might be testing some accessory GR branded parts, or a special edition short of GRMN.
 
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I think I have come to a point where being a BEV fanatic automatically discredits any argument that person can make.

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Is Toyota teasing us with an electrified Supra?

The Toyota FT-Se EV concept has some telltale Supra design elements. Is this the next chapter for the storied sports car?
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David Ruddock — Editor at Electrek said:
An electric Supra? Sign us up. As someone who’s driven the ICE version of the car, while it’s great, there’s nothing about that engine that’s special.
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If anyone wants to buy an EV, buy no means follow that DH’s advice.
 
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I was out on a ride yesterday, and there a group of MKIV and MKV Supras on the highway, likely headed to a meet. I was surprised to realize that the MKV is actually smaller than the MKIV - usually most modern models are elephants compared to their older siblings.
 
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I think Toyota has to target the Corvette with its Supra. There is no crossshoping between Porsche/BMW and Toyota. But Corvette yes if it is a better value. Acura NSX 2 would have sold better if it was priced like Corvette. Unfortunately mainstream brands can’t make a profit selling niche cars without status. The problem of LC sales is its performance shortcomings and the F brand inconsistency that plagues their image as a real performance brand.
 
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Gecko said:
The "we'll go it alone if we have to" comment was interesting. I know we've all been over this many times, but a Toyota-built and engineered Supra would be awesome.
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Similar answer was given when the LC200 was bowing out from the US, while they were developing the LC250.
 
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Levi said:
I think Toyota has to target the Corvette with its Supra. There is no crossshoping between Porsche/BMW and Toyota. But Corvette yes if it is a better value. Acura NSX 2 would have sold better if it was priced like Corvette. Unfortunately mainstream brands can’t make a profit selling niche cars without status. The problem of LC sales is its performance shortcomings and the F brand inconsistency that plagues their image as a real performance brand.
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LC sales didn't suffer because of performance. People who pay over USD100k on luxury sports cars care a lot about brand and legacy. They will always buy a Corvette or 911 when they want to spend that much on a sports car. Corvette and 911 are unbeatable brand names. Lexus can give it a 650PS engine and no buyer would care.

Contrary to common belief, the R35 GT-R was never a huge commercial success despite its overwhelmingly superior value compared to any super car of its time, simply because Nissan is not a "rich people brand".
 
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Gecko said:
The "we'll go it alone if we have to" comment was interesting. I know we've all been over this many times, but a Toyota-built and engineered Supra would be awesome.
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It's starting to point more that way, although could still be a chance that the BMW-Toyota partnership can be revived. If Toyota does develop the A100 on their own I want Toyota to build their own inline-six and proliferate that engine in other models. I'm just dying for an inline-six revival.
 
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From: https://kuruma-news.jp/post/780611
Regarding this 2.0-liter turbo, a Toyota engineer said, "Toyota has a globally popular engine called the 2JZ engine. We would like to aim to create an engine that surpasses that," giving us hope for future evolutions.
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With Toyota talking about the 2.0T being analogous to the 2JZ, I think that it is pretty clear that an A100 Supra will be getting the ~400hp 2.0L turbo 4cyl rather than an inline 6. Add in electrification and it is easy to have that powertrain up near 500hp.
 
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qtb007 said:
From: https://kuruma-news.jp/post/780611


With Toyota talking about the 2.0T being analogous to the 2JZ, I think that it is pretty clear that an A100 Supra will be getting the ~400hp 2.0L turbo 4cyl rather than an inline 6. Add in electrification and it is easy to have that powertrain up near 500hp.
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To me, this is more sacrilegious than BMW collaborating with Toyota to build a GR Supra. Now sure, there is a 4-cylinder model, but very few people purchase that one anyways. The vast majority of people buy the inline-six.
 
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I'm not opposed to it. Purpose evolves. The path to that purpose evolves. As long as the Supra looks striking and was built with passion, it'll be fine. I wasn't sure how I'd feel about a 3 cylinder in the GR Corolla, but it's phenomenal. The product development team gave all the f***s and that's what matters. That passion made a very special machine.
 
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