MKV Toyota Supra Master Thread

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What a mess. The first drive write-ups for the prototype are reporting conflicting details about the car.

Are only a few parts shared with the Z4, or are a lot of parts? Will the interior have BMW bin parts, or is the final interior going to be different?

I'm only feeling more personally disappointed with this project so far, not less.
 

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Our best look at the new Supra's interior!

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/our-best-look-at-the-new-supras-interior.1387/

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Thank God for paddle shifters! I see the BMW-designed central shifter prevailed with its counterintuitive "up for downshifts/down for upshifts' manumatic gate. Lexus' "up for upshifts/down for downshifts" makes far more sense.
 

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Considering the story about them not having talked to BMW in years, the interior switchgear looks to be almost entirely BMW.
 

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SupraMKV member cebesius emailed Toyota USA asking about a manual transmission, and here is their reply.

Dear [redacted],

Thank you for contacting Toyota Motor Sales USA Inc.

We appreciate your inquiry into the Toyota Supra.

Toyota is developing a new Supra with a manual transmission. Please go to pressroom.toyota.com for further information.

Your email has been documented at our National Headquarters. If we can be of further assistance, please feel free to contact us.

Sincerely, [redacted]

Toyota Customer Experience Center

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/to...ards-for-right-hand-drive-markets.1384/page-2
 

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As part of the 2018 Paris Motor Show's wave of Toyota press releases comes this one from the marque's Europe Newsroom:

New Toyota Supra priority orders open with membership to The Supra 900 Club
Following the announcement of the new Toyota Supra at the Geneva Motor Show in March, Toyota can confirm that online reservations for the first 900 units open on 2 October 2018 in major European sports car markets at first stage. Consumers in other markets will be kept up-to-date through the sign-up function on the Toyota Supra website until pre-order opens in those markets.

Faithful to its distinguished heritage as a pure, sports car, the thoroughbred fifth generation Toyota Supra features a front-mounted, 3.0 litre straight six-cylinder petrol engine with rear-wheel drive and active differential. The new two-seater package promises exhilarating driving performance, ensured by its perfectly balanced 50:50 weight distribution.

Production of the new Toyota Supra is due to commence next year with the first 900 European customers due to receive their cars after the summer. This privileged group of owners will not only have Toyota’s pure sports car at their fingertips, they’ll also be joining the Supra 900 Club. As members, they will have access to exclusive content, rewards and experiences in the build-up to delivery.

https://newsroom.toyota.eu/new-toyo...s-open-with-membership-to-the-supra-900-club/
 

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They haven't even shown the production car and they are already taking pre-orders...?
 
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The 2019 Toyota Supra Is a BMW Parts Bin Car
https://jalopnik.com/the-2019-toyota-supra-is-a-bmw-parts-bin-car-1829563030
The Supra will offer engine options that are similar to the Z4 but many believed that they would be customized to some extent. According to the catalog, the 3.0-liter turbo inline-six Supra engine will actually be very close to the engine in the new BMW X5.

The version in the Supra is dubbed the B58B30C and the complete assembly appears to be unique to the Supra—for now. Since the Z4 catalog has not been posted at this time, we cannot confirm if they share the whole assembly, but it’s probably safe to assume as much.

What we can confirm is that the catalog shows that the complete cylinder head with valves is a direct carryover from the new X5's engine as they have the exact same part number. The exhaust camshaft is shared with the X5 motor along with the intake camshaft which is also shared with various other BMW models that have a variant of the B58 engine and has the exact same part number as the one in the BMW 340i. The intake with charge air cooler is also shared with the engine from the X5.

The crankshaft and pistons are also shared with the X5 engine, while the connecting rods are a fairly standard part that has been used in various 3.0-liter BMWs since 2015. The story with the oil pan is similar as it has also been in use for the same motor since 2014 and is a common part number.

The oil pump is unique to the Supra, as is the turbocharger. The water pump and heat management module are shared with the X5.

Based on what we can see from the part numbers, it appears that BMW took the engine destined for the X5 and swapped out the oil pump and turbocharger along with maybe a few other smaller parts but the overall engines are very similar and share the majority of their parts. The engine and transmission mounts appear to be unique to the Supra while the transmission is listed as being the ZF 8HP51Z with its won unique part number. The engine computer, starter, and alternator are shared with the X5.

The fuel rail is shared with the X5 while the high pressure injectors are a common BMW part that has shown up in cars such as the current 5-Series and the Mini Clubman. The throttle body is shared with the X5.

The suspension is very similar to the current 5 Series but most of the part numbers appear to be unique. The wheel hub and bearing package is directly from that 5 Series and the VDP suspension controller comes from the M5. The supports and links for the rear sway bar comes from the i8.

Steering also looks very familiar so it is no surprise that the steering column is shared with the X3 and X4 although the steering rack appears to be unique to the Supra.

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Based on the parts we’ve spotted so far, it is apparent that the Supra is fundamentally a BMW vehicle and one that they’ve tried to build while using many of their existing parts. I expect that we will see these same parts on the Z4 and the only bits of Toyota that we will see here will be the badges and any custom tuning that they might have done on the ECU.
 

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Preorders for the United Kingdom are also opening up, with 300 units allocated for 2019. Here's more from the Toyota UK Media Site:

SUPRA STARTS HERE: TOYOTA OPENS ONLINE RESERVATIONS FOR THE RETURN OF ITS LEGENDARY SPORTS CAR
British motorists eager to be the first to get the keys to an all-new Toyota Supra can secure a place in the order books from today.

The imminent return of Toyota’s legendary sports car has already provoked great anticipation among motorists keen to experience new Supra’s “no compromise” engineering and performance. Their appetite has been whetted by the car’s scene-stealing appearances this year at the Geneva Motor Show and Goodwood Festival of Speed, and glowing reviews from the first journalists to drive a prototype model.


Andrew Cullis, Toyota GB Marketing Director, said: “The new Toyota Supra is a thoroughbred sports car with huge appeal to customers who are seeking a great driving experience and exclusivity. With only limited numbers available, we want to give people the earliest opportunity to secure their vehicle.”

To be sure of snapping up one of just 300 cars that will be available in the UK during 2019, customers can now place an official online reservation through Toyota’s national consumer website, or their local Toyota retailer’s web pages, using the My Toyota app. Making a reservation requires the submission of personal details and the payment of a £1,000 deposit, which is refundable if the customer changes their mind. Once all 300 places have been taken, further customers will be allocated a place on a waiting list. Order books will open in the New Year. Terms and conditions apply; full details can be found at www.toyota.co.uk.

Prices and specifications for the new Supra will be announced soon and customers will be kept fully up-to-date with information as it released.

The all-new Supra follows the great traditions of its predecessors as a front-engine/rear-wheel drive car, powered by a straight-six engine. Power output will be in excess of 300bhp, while a rigid chassis with a low centre of gravity promises to deliver an exhilarating drive.

http://media.toyota.co.uk/2018/10/s...s-for-the-return-of-its-legendary-sports-car/