5th Generation Toyota RAV4 Master Thread

Gecko

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There are as many CR-Vs as RAV4s on the streets of Southern Ontario (if not more). If I remember correctly, sales of the RAV4 have only recently (this generation) beat the CR-V here.

I have not checked to see who drives them but they seem to be ubiquitous family vehicles here.

I would be more interested in the CR-V if it offered a hybrid model, like the RAV4 and new Venza.

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Honda does not offer the CR-V Hybrid in Canada. I guess it is because Honda sells so few hybrid vehicles (demand is low) in Canada.
 

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ChDM CR-V PHV is very very disappointing considering RAV4/Wildlander PHV are so much better at lower price.

Battery capacity is same 16kWh but range is only 84km/52mi (11km less than RAV4). Only FWD is available. Power is only 135KW compared to 194/225kW on RAV4. RAV4 Prime also offers much more comfort features.

Honda was once so close to Toyota on hybrid tech but for some reason they managed to fall further and further behind.
 

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Because Honda barely exits in Europe where TMC sells over 1m vehicles power year, 500k of which are hybrids.

TMC also holds 42% of JDM, many of those are hybrids.

Economies of scale that Honda doesn't have.
 

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The RAV4 isn't perfect and I know the Honda drives well... but I think the biggest thing for most people is that the RAV4 looks better, offers more configurations/trims and is more appealing. The only people I know who buy CR-Vs are people who had one before or are moving up from a Civic, and it's generally sorority girls or older women. I know people across the spectrum who have gone after the new RAV4 from LE to TRD Off Road to XSE hybrid, and that includes sorority girls and older women as well as young men, young families, middle aged men/women, active people in their 30s, etc. Just a lot more appeal overall with a flavor for everyone.

Yes, I know how valuable "I know" and "I see in my market" feedback is 🤣

What is also ridiculous is Honda is advertising the CR-V (along with Pilot and passport) as rugged in off road ads and it’s the biggest crock of crap running alongside them drifting and racing rdx and mdx in ads. Like it is complete bull crap.

Meanwhile Toyota actually makes real off road vehicles and even the RAV-4 is more capable.
 

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What is also ridiculous is Honda is advertising the CR-V (along with Pilot and passport) as rugged in off road ads and it’s the biggest crock of crap running alongside them drifting and racing rdx and mdx in ads. Like it is complete bull crap.

Meanwhile Toyota actually makes real off road vehicles and even the RAV-4 is more capable.

Agree. I went with a friend this weekend (Venza shopper) who wanted to test drive the CR-V hybrid as a comparison point and Honda dealers in Metro Atlanta have a $4k market adjustment on every vehicle right now. Unreal. Venza blows the CR-V hybrid out of the water for ~$4k less at this point.
 
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The packaging on the CR-V and honestly many other Hondas, is attrocious. You have to go to the top line Touring if you want LED headlights, whereas it is standard on every RAV4; the base LX doesn't even offer Carplay/Android Auto. I'm sure LED lights and Carplay will likely be standard on every trim for the next CR-V, but I think Toyota did their homework in figuring out that not everyone wants to get the Limited to get the nicer options.
 
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