Nissan Rogue
Subaru Forester
Yeah, I was really surprised by these two. I thought that the Forester would perform better. The Rogue impressed me. The CX-5 was laughably bad. Nice win by the RAV4! I’m anxious to see the mid-cycle refresh.
Nissan Rogue
Subaru Forester
Nice win, but 95% of North American RAV4 owners will never even go off road.Rav4 won offroad comparo which was done really well, apparently new system is really good:
Nice win, but 95% of North American RAV4 owners will never even go off road.
True...besides a competent product, you need people who can speak to the masses in the marketing department regardless of whether the product is competent, or not.Right, but having that demonstrated capability means even more will now be sold to pick up the kids at school. That's practically Jeep's (and Land Rover's) entire business model at this point.
And...Sofyan is the first Youtuber to own a Prime
He probably will sell it next year and won't lose his shirt. From his IG post, he has the proper connections with Toyota so he got into one with help of a DSM and likely didn't pay over sticker.Interesting. He loves to smack on Toyota but Hyundai is coming out with an extended range electric/gas Tucson, so I’m surprised he didn’t go that route with as much as he LOVES Hyundai/Kia.
The RAV4, RAV4 Hybrid and RAV4 Prime do not need full electronic suspension to pass the moose test.Without fully electronic suspension, there is no way around the physics of heavy CUVs, it is either 911GT3 hard or rolls over.
The testers note "dangerous behavior" by the SUV on the twisty cone course, and say "the electronic stability control system engaged very late." Both the pure gas-powered RAV4 and the Hybrid model, when tested (loaded to the manufacturer's maximum limit), hopped up onto the outer two wheels multiple times.
Back in September, the all-new Toyota RAV4 – redesigned for the 2019 model year – failed Teknikens Värld's “Moose Test.” The publication noted the Toyota exhibited “dangerous behavior” because the vehicle’s electronic stability control was engaging very late. Toyota fixed the system’s late engagement through a software update. Teknikens Värld retested the RAV4 with the software update, and it now earns a passing grade from the publication.
The RAV4 Prime oversteered going through the course. This is a reaction that is not expected of FWD-biased vehicles; the stability control caused it to react that way. Adjusting how the stability control reacts should fix it, just as an adjustment helped the RAV4 and RAV4 Hybrid last year.In the video above, you can see Teknikens Värld doing several runs with the RAV4 Prime. Each time the rear end swings out and takes the crossover way too wide through the narrow course. Finally, at 39 miles per hour (63 kilometers per hour), the vehicle is able to complete the challenge successfully, but this is too slow for the publication to deem the result acceptable.
No it's a VSC code problem. The system did not detect the car is in heavy oversteer and intervene. Moose test is a safety test and mostly determined by ESP effectiveness and vehicle size. Plenty of heavier vehicles performed much better including the Hilux that almost rolled over before VSC software update.Without fully electronic suspension, there is no way around the physics of heavy CUVs, it is either 911GT3 hard or rolls over.