5th Generation RX Discussion: Official Thread (RX 500h, 450h+, 350h and More)

[pacman1]

I'm not going to argue with you back and forth, but there's more than enough evidence to show that there's many people on forums, Reddit, and full length tests on YouTube of people who have hit 30's. It's really not that difficult nor is it disingenuous. The funny thing is that in many tests the B58 was only a few MPGs off your wife's B48 Mini, that's how good the B58 is given for how much more power it made. So your results lines up with what I said.

Here's a better example, the car I currently drive, I get 6-7 MPGs more than what Toyota has advertised. I push the car hard at times as well (mainly because people around in my area drive like zombies).

While I can appreciate that people can achieve better mpg than what EPA reports, taking comments and YouTube reviewers (who are not likely going through extended city-driving) as gospel can skew your perception. I had a GS and would hit 15-18 on mpg, and sure I would have good days where it was 24 mpg but reporting that I get 24 mpg routinely would be disingenuous. For most drivers the mpg is probably closer to what Fuelly is reporting and not what is being reported by enthusiasts or short term reviewers.

 

[pacman1]

Give me all the arguments for Rx 500h sport performance is worth it. Please! Is it a good enough car? Driving experience, seatimg quality, with adaptive dumpers and seats etc.

The tax as a company car and benificial value (private tax) in my country (bonus malus) almost makes other german alternatives with plug in worth it…

Not interested in mpg of BMW etc…

If you are interested in spirited sporty driving in an SUV package you should get the X5 or a Macan/Cayenne. I would rate the ride comfort higher for Lexus. Yes, the RX500h is Lexus’ “sport” trim but it’s still a Lexus so in my opinion they emphasized comfort and reliability.

Interestingly, I would feel safer with BMWs B58 engine because the I-4 turbo hybrid in the RX500h hasn’t been out that long yet. Everything else such as electrical system I would feel the Lexus’ is more reliable but we won’t know until long term data is out. For purposes of commuting to work or running errands I would probably pick the Lexus. It is for the Lexus driver who just wants enough sport but not sporty enough to convert people who traditionally drive BMW sports cars. If I am leasing and I don’t have to worry about warranty I would pick the X5.

 

[F1 Silver Arrows]

While I can appreciate that people can achieve better mpg than what EPA reports, taking comments and YouTube reviewers (who are not likely going through extended city-driving) as gospel can skew your perception. I had a GS and would hit 15-18 on mpg, and sure I would have good days where it was 24 mpg but reporting that I get 24 mpg routinely would be disingenuous. For most drivers the mpg is probably closer to what Fuelly is reporting and not what is being reported by enthusiasts or short term reviewers.

The issue I have with the EPA reports is that they have a very rigid testing program that isn't entirely accurate of how a lot of people drive. Hence why I'm adamant on a lot of people's testimonies, as it has happened far too many times where people did not match the EPA numbers for numerous reasons.

Otherwise, what you're saying isn't incorrect, I'm just bringing up a separate argument.

My entire point is that for the increase in what you're paying the X5 50e isn't really worth it over the X5 40i. Be it efficiency, handling, or refinement.

 

[sl0519]

I'm not going to argue with you back and forth, but there's more than enough evidence to show that there's many people on forums, Reddit, and full length tests on YouTube of people who have hit 30's. It's really not that difficult nor is it disingenuous. The funny thing is that in many tests the B58 was only a few MPGs off your wife's B48 Mini, that's how good the B58 is given for how much more power it made. So your results lines up with what I said.

Here's a better example, the car I currently drive, I get 6-7 MPGs more than what Toyota has advertised. I push the car hard at times as well (mainly because people around in my area drive like zombies).

Latest B58 with mild hybrid, according to SG: mid 20s in the city, over 30 on the highway.......we know it's well over 400 hp @ crank and getting this kind of fuel economy is just nuts!