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2pieces like the gs350 F sports runs...nice
VP of marketing is ex Nissan right?
Is the 6 speed purpose built for the new system, or repurposing of an old transmission?View attachment 5914
Words are too complicated. Here is a diagram for new 500h system vs. old 500h system.
Performance-wise it certainly can't compare with multi-stage's crazy acceleration. But it's way simpler. Components are smaller and cheaper. But the most important thing about this system is scalability and adaptability. Change packaging to longitudinal and you get 550h for trucks. Change battery pack to 18.1kWh Li-ion and you get a 300kW 550h+. By 2025 swap out bipolar NiMH for solid-state Li-ion plus larger PCU and you get 350kW 600h. Most components are already sized for much higher output, for upgrades just swap out the limiting component like Legos (similar to existing A25-based 300h/350h/400h+/450h+ systems).
You cannot do the same with the multi-stage. An upgrade would require all components be changed.
Exactly. The original rumored LF-1 with multi-stage 500h would cost at least USD 20k more for about the same performance. Possibly weigh as much as LX but not much more interior space than RX. Very little possibility for future upgrades. The RX lineup could be expanded if the need arises. We now know 550h+ is being developed for TX.RX 500h FSP is making clear why the LF-1 was cancelled, and you know that’s hard for me to admit.
Midsize, two row crossover with 367hp/406lb-ft and a performance AWD system is 95% of what the LF-1 would have been, and that would have required more R&D to bring to market with more compromises (weight, price, space, technology).
I'm not sure. They don't have any transverse 6-speed transmission with 550N.m torque capacity.Is the 6 speed purpose built for the new system, or repurposing of an old transmission?
Interesting background; he came from a Ford family then worked at Nissan and VW before making the move to TexasVP of Marketing Vinay Shahani.. google him, the man is brilliant..View attachment 5910
And the front and rear both 235?Giant brakes…. 6 piston…. note it’s actually to the front…
21” wheels and Michelin tires
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Should definitely have atleast 255s imo when cars like the GLE and X5 are running 265-315 on non-M models. BUT, it does come with rear wheel steering!And the front and rear both 235?
Design is great, interior is best ever.
500h is awesome on paper, for Europe though, its efficiency is only 8% better than 350.
I hope in the future they add direct4 to the more traditional 450h+ setup.
Both 450h+ and 350h are significantly slower than in Rav4, i wonder how will the first drives look.
Performance-wise it certainly can't compare with multi-stage's crazy acceleration.
Maybe it's just me but I kinda have mixed feelings about 500h, especially with this "FSP" designation. On one hand, 370ps, 400ish lb-ft certainly look promising on paper, but on the other hand, preliminary acceleration figure doesn't go along with "FSP" grade so well. Actually, if it wasn't the FSP naming, I would be totally okay for just a simple 500h. I hope it will get improved overtime because it feels like they are aiming the performance to traditional 6s, but it's rather closer to competition's 4s (Bimmer 30i / MB 300). Other than that I've really got nothing to complain.......it is leaps and bounds better than the past RXs.
As shown in that figure the LS500h AWD has merely 154hp/t. That's comparable power-to-weight ratio to:The Multi-stage has crazy acceleration?
Considering weight and power differences, I think RX 500h will leave the LS 500h in the dust, and probably the LC 500h as well. Lexus drastically overstated performance numbers for those cars - they are slow.