If the LS is a flop, it is a money loser. Keeping it longer in the same state is only worse, so a new/redsigned LS is not unreasonable.I highly doubt within 6 years the LS would get a full redesign. Maybe big refresh but I'll take his word for it. Hopefully we see LS with the iforcemax in there
With the current design elements of Lexus, I think a new LS with this design will fit perfectly into the mix. Also looking at the grill and the tail light on this concept I will say the new RX might have benefitted from it and the and the LX benefitted from the bold DRL on this concept.2024 Cadillac Celestiq AWD First Look: Must Be Seen To Be Believed
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I think this is what the future of the LS should look like, but "When?" I am less sure about. I would assume 2025-2027 and have heard two things:
- Lexus is not saying much to corporate employees about the next gen/future LS but they have been pretty transparent about future products. Translation: If they had news, they'd start teasing it.
- The only comment that has been made is that they don't want it to get stale and "too old" like the last one did.
Falling sedan market + transition to BEV in the luxury space = next LS is probably going to have to be dramatic, unique and beautiful to pull people away from SUVs, and it's probably also going to have to be electric. I won't be surprised if the next LS is a true full-size, dramatic 4 door coupe styled vehicle that leaves the traditional sedan shopper looking at the ES. There's just no market space left for the LS as it is.
With Lexus' plans to be fully electric by 2030, a ~2025 or later LS would need to be as such, and if the LS has always been the forerunner of Lexus' future, I can't see how it wouldn't be electric. ~2025 is also when next gen battery tech is supposed to be viable.
The only thing I could see happening is a more dramatic refresh of the current vehicle in ~2024 to last us until an all-new 2026-2027 model year LS BEV. Remember that Lexus debuted the LS+ concept vehicle right after the 5th generation LS was revealed and they look an awful lot alike. Maybe that was a coincidence, maybe not.
A version of that concept with production front and rear styling, a revised interior, and only offering the iForce Max powertrain could probably be quite perfect for current market conditions and buy Lexus plenty of time to finalize the BEV LS. It could also be considered an interim step to full electric for Lexus marketing.
Lexus knows full size sedans aren't as big as they were 15-20 years ago. Lexus doesn't see much money in that segment maybe why we don't see any updates and the LS being lackluster
I don’t agree with his ending conclusion at all but another high quality episode. A lot of Lexus talk and driving the LS 400 and 500h. He immediately notes Acura and Infiniti are irrelevant.
Crazy to see him driving the 500h and remarking how sporty and good it drives. In comparison the G90 drives like poop in anyway besides cruising. It is a very old school luxury car.
I came away with this that the LS just needs a bump in investment to get it back on top or near tops.
Hopefully we get a redesign or big refresh with the LFR's TTV8 with a hybrid. That would be so smooth I'd imagine, the Tundra hybrid I've seen in reviews in it's smooth cuz of that hybrid, can't imagine what a LS with a TTV8 + hybrid would be.I came away with this that the LS just needs a bump in investment to get it back on top or near tops.
I don’t agree with his ending conclusion at all but another high quality episode. A lot of Lexus talk and driving the LS 400 and 500h. He immediately notes Acura and Infiniti are irrelevant.
Crazy to see him driving the 500h and remarking how sporty and good it drives. In comparison the G90 drives like poop in anyway besides cruising. It is a very old school luxury car.
I came away with this that the LS just needs a bump in investment to get it back on top or near tops.
The 2021 flings around curves just as well as the 2018. (Ask me why I'm not getting the rated MPG, LOL!)Maybe at the time of 5th LS's launch, it was a relatively sporty car in its segment, but that's no longer the case when they decided to tone down sportiness for comfort with its facelift.
A rebadged century as LS will still be criticized because of its interior design not because of its quality. As for its its appearance that will definitely not be questioned IMO.The only future for LS is full electric whether it's battery or hydrogen. This video demonstrates that.
Also I wonder whether the LS would get as much praise as the Century gets if they really made it a Century with Lexus badge.
This is the way. The LS brand has lost much of its weight in the last couple of generations, especially the last one. It needs either an electric or full hydrogen reboot, but the only option for them now seems to be full BEV to challenge the Tesla and EQS.The only future for LS is full electric whether it's battery or hydrogen. This video demonstrates that.
Also I wonder whether the LS would get as much praise as the Century gets if they really made it a Century with Lexus badge.