Is there a central beam on the moon roof, from the above picture it doesn't looks like it has one.
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The average person probably can’t tell (hence probably why TMC strategically made a decision to go cheaper), but as an enthusiast it’s noticeable.
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I agree completely. This is a slippery slope - when NuLuxe came on the scene, it was used in the CT first I believe? Then the NX and IS. A lot of the conversation at that time was that it's ok for $30k-something vehicles to use it as an entry-level option, but it shouldn't go beyond that. Now Nuluxe is on everything except for the flagship vehicles, with real leather being available in more expensive luxury or luxury+ packages on ES, RX, TX and GX. I feel like this transition with "trim" is similar.
If there's a sustainability element, which makes sense, I think it would be great for Lexus to issue a press release or some sort of thinking behind the change. Otherwise it just looks like cost cutting.
It's hard to be making a case for purpose built, dedicated luxury vehicles with vinyl seating and plastic trim.
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No central beam this is like the RX panoramic roof. Opens outside.
Next month’s Japan Mobility Show will set the stage for Lexus’ (and TMC in general) future as far as products are concerned in the near future and beyond. I can only ask for it to return our optimism in the brand… I’m sick of inhaling copium all the time…
Real leather requires so much maintenance. It's incredible how little care most Lexus owners put on their leather interior. You can find 2018 LS with completely torn steering wheel seats and arm rest. If you look at the "all leather" era Lexus (2000-2014) on the user market, very very few have seats in acceptable condition.
The bigger problem is again Lexus USA's maximum volume approach of either getting the second-to-lowest cookie cutter trim, or expensive fully loaded trim in their inventory. So customers have no option of just getting better materials. In Japan you can always get leather interior with fully customizable colors with any car you buy.
The bigger problem is again Lexus USA's maximum volume approach of either getting the second-to-lowest cookie cutter trim, or expensive fully loaded trim in their inventory. So customers have no option of just getting better materials. In Japan you can always get leather interior with fully customizable colors with any car you buy.
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Agreed. Nuluxe is great for 95% of owners and most people don't know the difference anyway.
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I look forward to hearing updates on new vehicles following that show.
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I don’t even know if it’s cheapening anymore. Apple dropped all leather products for carbon reasons. I rarely hear people talk about leather like in the past.
it just doesn’t seem to be on peoples lists unless the car is 100k
it just doesn’t seem to be on peoples lists unless the car is 100k
I can careless whether it’s genuine leather or not. Because nuluxe looks and feels good enough. What bothers me the most is the trend that Lexus is cheapening its overall interior designs so much so that new models like the TX and GX scream CHEAP. I think some wood trim would easily make a difference in these vehicles. When it comes to interior design and luxury, today’s Lexus models are a far cry from those in the 1990’s and early 2000’s.
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I’m not here to argue if it’s better or not. What I will say is people bitched constantly about remote touch and the wanted touch screen back. Lexus gives us a massive 14” touchsceeen and we are now complaining about the interior theme around it.
Lexus is pretty much one of the few brands integrating the screen and not just slapping on an ipad. It seems tho this might hurt the feel of luxury. The slap on screens in a Benz for example are surrounded by wood etc.
Overall maybe they should add more wood or aluminum or leather. I dunno. It’s harder to be original than to just copy someone.
Ima just blame Tesla lol
Lexus is pretty much one of the few brands integrating the screen and not just slapping on an ipad. It seems tho this might hurt the feel of luxury. The slap on screens in a Benz for example are surrounded by wood etc.
Overall maybe they should add more wood or aluminum or leather. I dunno. It’s harder to be original than to just copy someone.
Ima just blame Tesla lol
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Yup. Gotta pay for big screens, hybrid batteries and new platforms somehow 💸. Just a reflection of changing buyer preferences these days and Lexus is doing what they've gotta do.
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Also the competition is fierce from even brands like Mazda. This isn’t 1998. Parity has been achieved as everyone has gotten better. It’s tough to get a bad interior anywhere. When I sat in the Q7, MDX, QX60 they all had really good interiors and good materials for the most part. Nothing to really complain about and just a preference on style. Only the QX60 showed signs it was gonna have issues later.
The TX does trump them with the massive screen.
Something we forgot about is that the new Tazuna interior concept was designed to look right with a yoke steering wheel.
It's a very angular design and the flow of the lines follow the yoke. A traditional round steering wheel breaks the harmony of the overall design. It's also limited by the flat panel screen as it's designed for curved OLED screens.
Another missing element are small "ear" screens around the MID for digital side mirrors. The AC vents are placeholders and in the future could become invisible vents like those in Tesla.
Tazuna is a very good future proof concept that will mature when technology catches up. I also personally like the 3GS's "button drawer" design. They could use similar concept in the shifter region to get both physical button access and a minimalistic look.
The RZ has the best implementation of the Tazuna interior especially with the yoke:
It's a very angular design and the flow of the lines follow the yoke. A traditional round steering wheel breaks the harmony of the overall design. It's also limited by the flat panel screen as it's designed for curved OLED screens.
Another missing element are small "ear" screens around the MID for digital side mirrors. The AC vents are placeholders and in the future could become invisible vents like those in Tesla.
Tazuna is a very good future proof concept that will mature when technology catches up. I also personally like the 3GS's "button drawer" design. They could use similar concept in the shifter region to get both physical button access and a minimalistic look.
The RZ has the best implementation of the Tazuna interior especially with the yoke:
Well designed, true metallic (magnesium?) vents unlike the cheap glossy plastic-looking RX / NX / TX vents......
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