16th Generation Toyota Crown (Sedan, Cross, Sport, Estate/Signia)

[Levi]

Crown sedan leaves so much excitement that can lead to so much disappointment. V6 hybrid isn't moving forward obviously. Idk about T24 hybrid cuz turbo 4 in that Crown sedan might not cut it.

The most crazy thing would be Crown sedan getting TTV6 hybrid when the LS doesn’t. Best thing would be 2UR hybrid, but that is just dreaming….

 

[JustADude]

Wonder why Lexus discontinued that amazing 600h powertrain. 440hp 15 years ago, imagine if they updated that whole setup for the 5th gen, we can see around 480hp but can't imagine why it's a good combination. A new LS500h with 90hp less is still faster lol.

 

[Levi]

Wonder why Lexus discontinued that amazing 600h powertrain. 440hp 15 years ago, imagine if they updated that whole setup for the 5th gen, we can see around 480hp but can't imagine why it's a good combination. A new LS500h with 90hp less is still faster lol.

8GR-FXS is way more advanced than the old 2GR-FXE, including the transmission. If the same modification were made to the 2UR-FSE (I wonder why it was not called 2UR-FXE), performance could rival base TTV8 engines.

 

[JustADude]

Yup. LS500h an do 60 in around 5.2, if they updated the engine, better electric motors and used that new cvt/auto transmission we pushing 500hp. And that thing would be so smooth lol. It's not called 2UR-FXE because it's not detuned and still has D4S. Regular version of the 5L V8

 

[Gecko]

Yup. LS500h an do 60 in around 5.2, if they updated the engine, better electric motors and used that new cvt/auto transmission we pushing 500hp. And that thing would be so smooth lol. It's not called 2UR-FXE because it's not detuned and still has D4S. Regular version of the 5L V8

Is 5.2 what Lexus quotes or auto media can validate?

 

[JustADude]

Is 5.2 what Lexus quotes or auto media can validate?

I'm not sure what Lexus quotes but from the majority I've seen is around 5.4-5 flat.

 

[F1 Silver Arrows]

I'm not sure what Lexus quotes but from the majority I've seen is around 5.4-5 flat.

Yeah I heard around low 5's. The TTV6 was advertised as going to 60 in 4.5 seconds. But generally add 4 or 5-tenths and you're close.

 

[spwolf]

Wonder why Lexus discontinued that amazing 600h powertrain. 440hp 15 years ago, imagine if they updated that whole setup for the 5th gen, we can see around 480hp but can't imagine why it's a good combination. A new LS500h with 90hp less is still faster lol.

What's 600h, GS450h? It had 343hp or something like that.

 

[spwolf]

The most crazy thing would be Crown sedan getting TTV6 hybrid when the LS doesn’t. Best thing would be 2UR hybrid, but that is just dreaming….

Well, you mean Crown Sedan could get bigger engine in 2024 than LS in 2018?

I don't see why not.

Problem with that thinking is that this car is for JDM, and for them i am not sure anyone cares about v6tt hybrids there.

 

[Levi]

Problem with that thinking is that this car is for JDM, and for them i am not sure anyone cares about v6tt hybrids there.

That probably shows Crown sedan is not for JDM market only. A Crown badged rebodied ES would do it.

 

[spwolf]

That probably shows Crown sedan is not for JDM market only. A Crown badged rebodied ES would do it.

so Crown Sedan will actually have 700h powertrain or whatever they call it, with v6tt+hybrid max? Or are you just wishing it?

Crown Sedan can not be rebadged into ES, it is more expensive vehicle.

 

[JustADude]

Also we don't know if Crown sedan is FR but most likely it is. ES won't go FR obviously.

 

[Ali Manai]

The 15th gen crown v6 hybrid is indeed faster than hybrid max and is also about 20kg lighter even though it's based on the L platform which media bitched about being too heavy

 

[Ali Manai]

The crown sedan will be launched this year and I doubt we'll get much info before release

 

[Ali Manai]

I hate low slung cars but this is an exception maskes it look like a sedan

 

[JustADude]

The 15th gen crown v6 hybrid is indeed faster than hybrid max and is also about 20kg lighter even though it's based on the L platform which media bitched about being too heavy

I question how the v6 hybrid is much faster than the hybrid max, v6 hybrid can hit 60 about 8 tenths faster, only has slightly more power, auto/cvt vs real 6 trans in hybrid max, and possibly less torque from the NA engine.

 

[Gecko]

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I hate low slung cars but this is an exception maskes it look like a sedan

WTF this looks great and very VIP!

 

[Ali Manai]

I question how the v6 hybrid is much faster than the hybrid max, v6 hybrid can hit 60 about 8 tenths faster, only has slightly more power, auto/cvt vs real 6 trans in hybrid max, and possibly less torque from the NA engine.

At the end of day that powertrain is lighter than hybrid max and safe to say more reliable

 

[Gor134]

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I hate low slung cars but this is an exception maskes it look like a sedan

Not a fan... the design itself is very tall since it was designed from the start as a "Crossover sedan" as opposed to being a crossover-ified sedan.

 

[Ali Manai]

Not a fan... the design itself is very tall since it was designed from the start as a "Crossover sedan" as opposed to being a crossover-ified sedan.

I said looks better not great