True even though headlights are almost the same but the way everything meets in the center is pretty good
16th Generation Toyota Crown (Sedan, Cross, Sport, Estate/Signia)
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Wish we would get this here, with ICE powertrains.
If they body colour those slide panels and remove that plastic cladding or replace it with chrome or aluminum it will look a lot more premium. 
Side by side the newer one doesn't really look that high but the older one just looks and feels more premium.
The New Shape of Innovation: Toyota Crown Arrives in Early 2023 - Toyota USA Newsroom
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (Oct. 25, 2022) – With a look that’s entirely unique for its class, the all-new 2023 Toyota Crown brings bold style to the top of the Toyota sedan lineup. With massive wheels, a flowing silhouette and unique paint options, it is a ride that is ready to stand out from the crowd...
Tested: 2023 Toyota Crown Courts Controversy
Toyota embraces polemical design with the Avalon's tall four-door successor, the 2023 Crown.
2023 Toyota Crown First Drive Review: Still Good Without the Backstory?
With 70 years of heritage, the 2023 Toyota Crown is the latest in a long line of flagships. Now that it’s in the U.S., what’s the 2023 Crown like to drive?
The 2023 Toyota Crown Wants to Be a Sports Sedan
I’m not sure that Toyota knows who the car is really for.
Simply perplexing! When factoring in the overall cost of the Crown Platinum, you might as well just move upmarket to a
ES or RX. 😆
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Damn Road and Track, MT and C&D were impressed by how it drives. This is the standard that TNGA-K platforms should be aiming for. Efficient, comfortable, yet pretty damn capable.
Don't look at C&D comments if you don't want an aneurysm.
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Not sure where else to put this, but I really hate this new frond end Toyota is using on everything: bZ4x, bZ3, Crown, etc.
It's really bionic and stupid looking. This Crown is cool and has a lot of legitimate merits, but the front end is BUSTED. I really hope Camry, Corolla, Prius, etc aren't getting this soon.
It's really bionic and stupid looking. This Crown is cool and has a lot of legitimate merits, but the front end is BUSTED. I really hope Camry, Corolla, Prius, etc aren't getting this soon.
I am ok with front. It is the rear that has me more worried.
The Crown is as expensive as the Lexus ES (in the USA) -- or even more expensive in the case of the Crown Platinum with Hybrid Max -- yet the ES has the much better interior (and more aspirational badge).
What is Toyota thinking?
Does this mean that Lexus will be raising prices of the ES?
If the ES replaces the LS, do we lose the entry-level sedan? That would be unfortunate. Or could we have a wider range of ES trims and models, from entry-level to powerful and luxurious?
On the widening of the range, I agree we should get an ES 500h, in addition to an ES 450h+ PHEV, seeing that the Crown will soon get a PHEV model.
On the widening of the range, I agree we should get an ES 500h, in addition to an ES 450h+ PHEV, seeing that the Crown will soon get a PHEV model.
If we do I hope it's not ES500h FSP like the RX. It should just be ES500h standard with an optional F Sport handling for more sporty driving. 367hp in an ES would be amazing.