Simply pathetic! Utilizing a Mazda specific powertrain/platform for mid-range Toyota/Lexus vehicles is sacrilegious & lazy.
16th Generation Toyota Crown (Sedan, Cross, Sport, Estate/Signia)
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Simply pathetic! Utilizing a Mazda specific powertrain/platform for mid-range Toyota/Lexus vehicles is sacrilegious & lazy.
F1 Silver Arrows
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Disagree. This is such a stupid bandwagon to be on. The B58 is the most superior 6-cylinder engine on the market. It is the JZ that all of us have been asking for. It's reliable, stupidly powerful and torquey, yet unlike the JZ, it's lighter, and it's insanely fuel efficient. The B48 (which is basically the B58 with two cylinders lopped off albeit with some other differences) is not that much more fuel efficient, and it's a turbocharged 4-cylinder for crying out loud.
B58 > Mazda inline-six
I don't care. Nothing beats the B58. Period.
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@F1 Silver Arrows , at least bro wait until it can be out in some more models before giving the final verdict
It is said that toyota engineers were also involved in the development of the i6 engine by mazda as initial plans were to also use it in the is and rc but there were significant changes in plans last year
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Yeah crown had a coupe until the 5th gen which was then replaced by the Soarer (only name change) and 3rd and 4[h gen were available in the US as the lexus sc
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Nothing that I have heard says that it will be anywhere near as good as the B58.
I couldn't recall Mazda even developed a Skyactiv-G version of the 3.0L I6. I will be very surprised if the Skyactiv-X gets over 300PS. That mysterious sporty I6 Mazda RWD car exists in people's imagination. In that case what is the point of using it over say a T24 P2 hybrid that we know is under development?
Unless Toyota scrapped development of future ICEs (that's still possible), I don't see them using a Mazda engine.
Unless Toyota scrapped development of future ICEs (that's still possible), I don't see them using a Mazda engine.
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True but people are speculating toyota might use this instead of the v35 to seperate ls and crown (althogh with Ls potentially becoming full ev in 2025 would negate that) and also since mazda is developing the hybrid version of i6 with toyota (that makes it a more sensible choice than a b58 since it would be costly to implement a toyota hybrid system onto that engine)
hopefully they can use this new I6 in other products rather than just the Crown, like IS or GS but IS is probably electric sadly.
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