I would't call it an Acura parrot-beak per se, but, yes, the heavy chrome bar at the top of the grille does give some of that effect.
Yes parrot-beak-like if that sounds better, given the effect, lol.
I would't call it an Acura parrot-beak per se, but, yes, the heavy chrome bar at the top of the grille does give some of that effect.
Yes parrot-beak-like if that sounds better, given the effect, lol.
Good explanation on your part, especially from an auto enthusiast's point of view. Many buyers, though, in this class of car (mainstream mid-size family sedan), like with full-size American trucks, simply buy out of habit or previous ownership, without really checking out the competition. I've known people who have owned several Accords, for example, one after the other, simply because they had one before, or because Mom or Dad got them started on one 20 years ago.
I just realized this Accord refresh has an Acura beak and Acura spider eye dizzying LED headlights on the Touring.
I've driven both engine versions of the tlx and Shawd and it's very underwhelming unfortunately. This Accord just makes that car seem just more redundant and why sales haven't been great for the tlx (better than the last gen TL but no match for the 3rd gen)
Not everyone may agree with me on this, but, IMO, Honda and Acura really need to find something else up front. Those parrot beaks, and beak look-alikes, are getting stale.
In fact, some Acura dealerships were, at customer-request, painting the beaks the car's body-color before new car vehicle-delivery to lessen their visual-effects, though I understand that the policy has now stopped because of what it was costing the dealerships.
Of course, if suddenly there is a drastic change with a specific vehicle that really disappoints or lets down consumers, then often en mass they will leave to another brand and that specific vehicle will suffer seriously. The most famous modern example being the 3rd-generation Ford Taurus, released back in 1996.
Hondas looking like Acuras, and Acuras looking like Hondas. Not a new trend here really.
Actually, I think many would agree with you on that. For years I've heard Acura dealers have heard harsh consumer reaction to the whole "beak" look, and despite this, Honda remained defiant until only recently they decided to change the look a little bit.
Except for the big Acura RLX, which IMO is a good luxury car despite low sales, Acuras generally drive like Hondas, too.
Yes, I know many would agree among car enthusiasts and forum-posters like this, but, outside of the relatively few customers who actually wanted the beaks repainted, how many among the rank-and-file customers really care? Acura, despite the low RLX and ILX sales, has managed to sell a fair number of those parrot-beaks, even though many like us don't think much of that design.
The market has spoken on the RLX, like previous predecessors. It's been a sales failure, just like preceding models. People continue to view that "flagship" as nothing but an oversized, fancier Accord.
Great point!
I find Honda and Acura's lineups too firm for my liking, and have felt that way for a long time. I'm not surprised at all to see some of their models further deteriorating in ride comfort.
Nice big fancy Civic in pics.
Actually, the Civic itself is not exactly pint-sized any more. It's now virtually as large as Accords were not that long ago....one reason why Honda brought the Jazz/Fit over here to undercut it. That, added to the fact that, like the Camry, the last major Accord redesign was actually shrunk a little.
CIF said:Specifically, various Hondas and Acuras I've driven or been a passenger in, I have found handle potholes and bad roads quite poorly.
I actually have a bit of seat time in the RLX and its not even worth taking the time to write a review.
I actually have a bit of seat time in the RLX and its not even worth taking the time to write a review.
I did one last year, but at least partly from forum-member request, not totally my own interest. Nice luxury car (smooth ride by Acura standards), but didn't think it was overall quite as well-built as the previous 2Gen RL.
I also recall not being able to get in the back seat at an auto show and thinking "well this is just insult to injury" as it didn't have much going for it in the first place.I did one last year, but at least partly from other forum-member requests, not totally my own interest. Nice luxury car (smooth ride by Acura standards), but didn't think it was overall quite as well-built as the previous 2Gen RL. And the base FWD version instead of standard SH-AWD was a step backwards.
Maybe (?) sightly off-topic, but I've seen only one vehicle in the last several years that I completely ruled out a review for as a waste of time, and that was the Acura ZDX. I probably wasted my time at the D.C. Auto Show just looking at it on the floor.......and trying to get in and out of the rear seat. I don't know how that thing ever got off the drawing board.
So maybe one person that somebody actually knows bought one, that's kind of good?... (Although it probably didn't end up resulting in purchase is my guess.)
RL vs RLX sales race is about as slow as it gets. Not sure how these got into this thread.
True lets get back on the Accord.
One thing I'd like to see them do with this new Accord is another Crosstour, and, THIS time, do it RIGHT....not with the cue-ball-shaped rear end and limited cargo space which kept the old one from selling. With both the old Crosstour and Toyota Venza leaving the scene, the Outback needs some credible competition.