Toyota Land Cruiser 300 Discussion

[CRSKTN]

We’ll see some options, but I doubt Toyota will offer aftermarket front bumpers. Too much of a negative impact on front crash ratings. Rock sliders and roof racks, yes. Rear bumper and factory lift, maybe. I’m sure other companies are already working on front bumper designs. Personally, I’d love to see what CBI and ARB come up with.

 

[Levi]

It is a Landcruiser thread right?

There is Landcruiser and Landcruiser...

 

[Motor]

J200. He’s a fan.

 

[UZJ100GXR]

I am seeing alot of videos with "engines issues" of the V35A in the Middle East on the 300 LC/LX.

Could be a mix of incorrect oil viscosity being used and some manufacturing defect affecting certain vin.


I personally know someone who had to replace his block due to a knocking noise that came out of nowhere. Apparently some piston issue that resulted in more issues and they replaced the block on warranty.

This is of one instance I know personally, I have seen many other videos as well.

Had around 43,000km when the incident happened.
It was one of the early 300s.

All documented with Toyota.


He has a 2003 uzj100 with almost half a million kms. He drove that while his new lc300 was being worked on for engine issues....

 

[CRSKTN]

I wonder how many people who tend not to listen to anyone are treating these new engines as poorly as they did the old ones, the old ones just managed it better.

 

[Levi]

I am seeing alot of videos with "engines issues" of the V35A in the Middle East on the 300 LC/LX.

Could be a mix of incorrect oil viscosity being used and some manufacturing defect affecting certain vin.


I personally know someone who had to replace his block due to a knocking noise that came out of nowhere. Apparently some piston issue that resulted in more issues and they replaced the block on warranty.

This is of one instance I know personally, I have seen many other videos as well.

Had around 43,000km when the incident happened.
It was one of the early 300s.

All documented with Toyota.


He has a 2003 uzj100 with almost half a million kms. He drove that while his new lc300 was being worked on for engine issues....

How is the v6 diesel doing?

 

[NomadDan]

There seems to be quite a few people reporting seized V35 engines that have had main bearing failures. Now there’s the fuel line recall too. [Edit: I should be more specific…the issues I’m reading about are related to the Tundra. Not sure about other vehicles with the V35]

There’s a good number of people who were concerned about the reliability of a TT V6 compared to a NA V8, and I was hoping Toyota could pull off a TT V6 without any issues, but it seems those concerns were valid. Hopefully the T24 has less problems.

 

[UZJ100GXR]

Best eo

There seems to be quite a few people reporting seized V35 engines that have had main bearing failures. Now there’s the fuel line recall too.

There’s a good number of people who were concerned about the reliability of a TT V6 compared to a NA V8, and I was hoping Toyota could pull off a TT V6 without any issues, but it seems those concerns were valid. Hopefully the T24 has less problems.

It will be interesting to see how the roll out of the twin turbo v6 y63 Nissan Patrol/Armada/QX80 is going to be. If they will face an issues or if it will be more reliable.

Curious to see what engine they use and how it will compare to the v35A.
Should be on sale closer to late spring/early summer 2024.

 

[Gecko]

I moved all of the powertrain discussion here since the Land Cruiser 250 isn't even getting the V35A, and the replies were heading in a broader direction

 

[Heicho]

I moved all of the powertrain discussion here since the Land Cruiser isn't even getting the V35A, and the replies were heading in a broader direction

What about the 300 😳

 

[Gecko]

The other thread is Toyota and Lexus powertrain info, so Land Cruiser, LS, LX, etc can all be included there. We can bring Land Cruiser-specific information back here for sure.

 

[carguy420]

What about the 300 😳

Apparently the LC300 doesn't exists, at least according to Toyota USA's marketing team 🤷‍♂️.

 

[Motor]

 

[Gecko]

I think there is still definitely a market for LC 300 - it's Toyota's global flagship vehicle and has the best of everything. Interior is also nicer than the LX (IMO), so if I lived in a market that sold both, I'd rather have a Land Cruiser 300.

One thing that is unclear to me is that old Land Cruisers (100, 200) used to be built to a 25 year usable life spec which is one thing that differentiated them from something like the Sequoia...Is that still in effect with GA-F?

I'm sure Land Cruiser 300 gets the "best of everything" but even then, platform, engines and transmissions are shared with the Tundra and Sequoia. I am less sure where/how 250 components differ, but I'm sure they are cheaper in places -- they have to be.

 

[UZJ100GXR]

According to online reactions, the LC250 might sell well. Being the same size now as LC300, and costing less, I see absolutely no market for the LC300, ever. Who wants a V6 in their LC250 can get the GX. On the other hand there still is the LX as a “crème de la crème” Landcruiser.

The LC200 (excluding LX 570 sales) at its peak with no supply issues sold around 120k units a year, add that with like 30/40k 570s you had almost 150k 200 series vehicles sold per year at the peak. That was not far off from the 150 of the time which sold probably around 150k a year (excluding GX).
I'm talking global sales here. The Prado/250 will outsell the LC300 overall but not in all markets. Toyota always expects the Prado family to be the best seller that is the goal of it to be the affordable LC that gets people into the LC family. So it selling better than the flagship isn't a surprise or shock to Toyota.

So when you add the price difference that's pretty impressive

Fast forward to LC300, obviously supply issues and all that but it still is selling extremely well (though I don't have specific figures) case in point I totally expect the sales records to be broken especially in coming years when the supply issues improve with all land cruisers (70/250/300)

Alot of people want a stately conservatively designed vehicle and the LC300 provides that.
Add that to the fact the LC300 has better engines and some toyota 250 versions will actually overlap and be super close price wise to some 300s, that plays in the favor of the 300.

You guys also realise the LC300 and LX still have a long life ahead of them with lots of updates and a facelift soon too.
Don't you worry, the flagship will rise even further.

If anything the weakest link here seems to be the Seqouia. Is it doing well in the US?

Seqouia is not sold in the Middle east anymore (discontinued after 2016). It would be a great seller though here.

 

[qtb007]

He's not talking about the middle east.

 

[UZJ100GXR]

He's not talking about the middle east.

He referred to the LC300. They don't sell the LC300 (J300) in the US. They sell a J310 as the LX600.

So when the topic of LC300 sales is brought up, it is only natural global markets will be brought up to the discussion...since it is a global vehicle.

Also, I was talking about global sales, not specifically Middle Eastern sales.

The only time I brought up the Middle East in my response was in relation to the Seqouia question that I asked.

Anyway, since we are bringing up the ME. (ME specifically GCC is the biggest LC market in the world followed by Australia). GCC is also the biggest market for the LX.


I am sharing different perspectives and looking at the bigger picture.

 

[qtb007]

He referred to the LC300. Its strongest market is the Middle East. They don't sell the LC300 in the US. They sell a J310 as the LX600.

So when he said LC300 sales what else was he talking about? It is impossible to talk LC sales without bringing up the Middle East.

Also, I was talking about global sales , not specifically Middle Eastern sales.

He's referring to the absence of the Toyota branded LC300 in the NA market. Since the LC200 bombed in the US, making a version that is more inline with US tastes and price points (LC250) makes a lot of sense. Since we have the 4Runner, LC250, GX, Sequoia, and LX, there isn't a need for a Toyota branded LC 300 in the US.

 

[UZJ100GXR]

He's referring to the absence of the Toyota branded LC300 in the NA market. Since the LC200 bombed in the US, making a version that is more inline with US tastes and price points (LC250) makes a lot of sense. Since we have the 4Runner, LC250, GX, Sequoia, and LX, there isn't a need for a Toyota branded LC 300 in the US.

Thank you for clarifying.
Alot of the members here are not from the US, so my response was from that perspective.

What he said sounded strange for someone who lives in a country where the LC300 and LX are the best selling vehicles.

From your US perspective where they only sold one fully loaded LC200, totally makes sense.

So again different perspectives. Thanks.

 

[Levi]

The LC200 (excluding LX 570 sales) at its.....

Sorry I did not mention I was specifically speaking of the NA market. I know about the rest of the world. And regarding the rest of the world, even in Europe, Prado buyers (the regular ones), they usually know there is a large Landcruiser not sold anymore. The way the media/buyers/interested people talk about the NA LC250, it sounds like for them it is the replacement of both FJ Cruiser (custom bodies Prado to look retro) and the LC200 standard Landcruiser.

The GX (1st gen) could have gotten a different reception in the US market, if the Prado (J120) was sold in parallel.

Right now I see on wiki page the the LC250, in the square box, the GX is not linked in related platform, the LX is.