Toyota Land Cruiser 300 Discussion

[UZJ100GXR]

Thank you @Levi . I didn't know you were based in the US.

More land cruiser sales is always a good thing regardless of series.

I feel it will benefit the entire LC range and we will hopefully see more exciting products.

Imagine just a few years ago (before @Carmaker1) and other distinguished members discussed the upcoming LC250/(Prado) /GX and gave us accurate info.

All what we are seeing today from GX/250 (Prado) would have sounded like it's too good to be true.

Exciting times ahead!

 

[Levi]

Thank you @Levi . I didn't know you were based in the US.

More land cruiser sales is always a good thing regardless of series.

I feel it will benefit the entire LC range and we will hopefully see more exciting products.

Imagine just a few years ago (before @Carmaker1) and other distinguished members discussed the upcoming LC250/(Prado) /GX someone described how they would become today, it would sound like it's too good to be true.

Exciting times ahead.

No I am Europe based, and very aware of the Landcruiser heritage, have an acquaintance that baught Landcruisers, (has an old J40 too), his last is a J200 facelift II (facelift III was not sold in Western Europe anymore). Because there is no new anymore, he keeps it, has +400.000 km on it (V8 diesel).

The way I see the reception of the LC250/GX is simply strange from my view.

But I agree with you, from a marketing perspective, the successful reception of the Landcruiser name in NA is benefiting the name as a whole, worldwide.

 

[Heicho]

Being the same size now as LC300

It's actually a bit shorter and narrower than the LC.

I see absolutely no market for the LC300, ever

The LC300 still remains the flagship and the more desirable model. It has 3 different V6 engines (1GR, V35A, F33A). If I had to say the GX is the model you'll have to make a case for. But it has a much better case than the GX 460 had when the LC200 with the 4.6L V8 existed so it has a good starting point.

All what we are seeing today from GX/250 (Prado) would have sounded like it's too good to be true.

I know, right? Nobody I know would've seriously considered a Prado/GX before haha.

facelift III

There were only 2 facelifts on the 200. The first in 2012 and the second in 2016.

 

[Levi]

There were only 2 facelifts on the 200. The first in 2012 and the second in 2016.

Right, what I meant was 2nd facelift or 3rd and last version before LC300.

 

[Motor]

Mercedes to release a smaller version of its G Class luxury SUV

Mercedes plans to launch a smaller version of its high-end G Class sports utility vehicle but did not give a specific date for its release.

www.cnbc.com

There’s that.

 

[CRSKTN]

Love the car, hate what it's become and who it attracts.
Can't ever have one because of the association unless i get some grandfather spec.

 

[Levi]

Love the car, hate what it's become and who it attracts.
Can't ever have one because of the association unless i get some grandfather spec.

Same for me regarding BMW. I’d gladly have a 340d Touring or 540d Touring, but can’t accept the image.

 

[ssun30]

I don't think it will be BOF because longitudinal BOF is the least space-efficient platform (the LX has shorter cabin length than the Camry, the Sequoia cabin is smaller than Grand Highlander). Not really possible to have 2 rows of usable seats for adults and enough cargo capacity in a 4.3m body. That's about the same length as 3 doors. And even if they manage to package for more space there won't be much GVM left for payload.

The 5 door Jimney will technically seat 4 very small people and barely any cargo. It has almost no crumple zone so if you crash you will die. I drove a Daihatsu Terios 5 door (the last small BOF built by Daihatsu) almost 2 decades ago. It's 4.4m long (same as Corolla Cross) and it has less space than a Gen 1 RAV4 5 door which was only 4.1m long.

 

[ssun30]

BestCar is doubling down on their speculation of the LC mini being BOF and having a never seen engine (1.5T).

 

[Heicho]

TNGA-F's scalability is insane if so

 

[Levi]

Three more BOF models to come yet, the Hilux, Fortuner and 4Runner.

 

[Motor]

Toyota And SEMA 2023: Track or Trail, Your Thrill Awaits - Toyota USA Newsroom

LAS VEGAS (Oct. 31, 2023) – Toyota returns to the Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) Show this fall with a new, multi-brand environment based on 2023’s show theme: Track or Trail, Your Thrill Awaits.

pressroom.toyota.com

Rod Millen Group’s 1967 FJ45 Land Cruiser Wagon, dubbed The Retro Cruiser, is one of the coolest and most famous Land Cruiser projects ever completed. Now almost 25 years young, Toyota has refreshed this legend and brought it to Toyota’s SEMA space for the first time, to inspire an entirely new generation of Land Cruiser fanatics.

 

[Motor]

Toyota And SEMA 2023: Track or Trail, Your Thrill Awaits - Toyota USA Newsroom

LAS VEGAS (Oct. 31, 2023) – Toyota returns to the Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) Show this fall with a new, multi-brand environment based on 2023’s show theme: Track or Trail, Your Thrill Awaits.

pressroom.toyota.com

A salute to Land Cruiser’s roots, this one-of -a- kind, “King of the Hammers” inspired concept began life as a 1966 FJ45 pickup that Toyota transformed into a rock-crawling beast, ready to conquer the toughest terrain in the world.

 

[ssun30]

I just realized the LC70 series got a GVM upgrade for 2023 from 3350kg to 3510kg so now a 2dr pickup could haul 1310kg of cargo. That's more than any Tundra/Sequoia variant (Tundra capston has 3470kg GVM and only 670kg payload). The GVM has grown 40%, payload has grown by 157%, and towing has grown by 133% compared to the original LC70 (1984). Turns out you don't need redesigns if you overengineer so much margins into the platform.

 

[Motor]

 

[qtb007]

I saw 5 300 series land cruisers unloaded from a broken down car carrier on my way to work last week. It didn’t dawn on my that they were 300 series until I saw the grilles in my side view mirror. I’m guessing they were on their way to get some upfitting before being exported again.

 

[Levi]

I saw 5 300 series land cruisers unloaded from a broken down car carrier on my way to work last week. It didn’t dawn on my that they were 300 series until I saw the grilles in my side view mirror. I’m guessing they were on their way to get some upfitting before being exported again.

Which country?

 

[qtb007]

Which country?

USA. It’s not hard to get vehicles that are not road legal into the country. It is hard to get them titled for permanent import. These are here for a short stay.

 

[Levi]

USA. It’s not hard to get vehicles that are not road legal into the country. It is hard to get them titled for permanent import. These are here for a short stay.

If they are not for NA, where were they heading to?

With the LC250 called “Landcruiser”, NA is definitely not getting the LC300 without the Lexus badge.

 

[qtb007]

If they are not for NA, where were they heading to?

With the LC250 called “Landcruiser”, NA is definitely not getting the LC300 without the Lexus badge.

Various companies in the US will upfit for armor or other special purposes. These will most likely get armor and get shipped back to whatever market they were originally intended.