Toyota BZ4X
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Im familiar with the Tundra TSB. They have solutions to that recall which is to retorque. The BZ4x is a buy back I can only guess why.
Either way I assume Toyota PR is working overtime to clean this scenario.
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Had the opportunity to seat inside a bz4x for a couple of minutes, some key points:
- It’s almost impossible to get a comfortable driving position without the steering wheel top arc blocking the speedometer;
- The inside floor is really high, so the interior ergonomics are somewhere between a TM3 (you can’t have your knees at an expected SUV angle) and a NX, it reminds me the first gen X3, older ML’s;
- It has a really nice legroom but you can’t place your feet under the front seats;
- It doesn’t seemed that bigger than the RAV4 due to the design, the RZ should be on point;
- Sales are not allowed for now (both BZ4X and RZ450e) in Portugal;
- It feels more spacious inside, than what it seems outside.
Right after I stepped into a NX450h+, that car messes with me!
- It’s almost impossible to get a comfortable driving position without the steering wheel top arc blocking the speedometer;
- The inside floor is really high, so the interior ergonomics are somewhere between a TM3 (you can’t have your knees at an expected SUV angle) and a NX, it reminds me the first gen X3, older ML’s;
- It has a really nice legroom but you can’t place your feet under the front seats;
- It doesn’t seemed that bigger than the RAV4 due to the design, the RZ should be on point;
- Sales are not allowed for now (both BZ4X and RZ450e) in Portugal;
- It feels more spacious inside, than what it seems outside.
Right after I stepped into a NX450h+, that car messes with me!
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Does anyone here suppose that Toyota deliberately wants to buy back cars and not sell any because they are not BEV friendly? They are nearly anti-BEV. Makes me wonder, because thread locker could have fixed this issue on day one of the issue, I would think... 
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It cost an absolute fortune to develop a new car and buying back cars is a black eye to their reputation. They will want the bZ4x out on the market again ASAP to put the buyback in the past and hopefully have happy customers. You also shouldn’t put thread locker on a bolt that you remove every 5000miles. Thread locker bolts are more 1 shot and done, do not reuse bolt if removed. Buyers aren’t going to want to buy new lug bolts every 10k miles or rely on the local tire shop to apply thread locker every time they rotate tires.
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I wonder if they are repurposing those vehicles before the title gets stamped as part of the buy back process. If they did, a nice bunch of "open box" BZ4x allocations just opened up lol.
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How does that work on the bz4x? (what initiates the precondtioning process)
Plugging it in.
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Sad. If that's true, that is slow, requiring the driver to wait until correct temperature is reached.
The way it works on a Tesla, driver navigates to the preferred Tesla supercharger, and while on the way to the supercharger the battery is preconditioned automatically. Upon arrival at the Tesla supercharger, Tesla driver immediately plugs into charger and the fast charging starts immediately (no waiting at all, no 3rd party charging app needed, no keeping fingers crossed and hoping that the 3rd party charger actually works, no PIN numbers, no credit card swipes, etc.)
No, the bZ4X's BMS always "conditions" the battery even without scheduling or when "navigate to charge point" is activated (it doesn't have that to begin with). In that sense it's always "conditioned" when running. But there is no way to schedule preconditioning after the vehicle has idled for a long time (possibly because they assume use will always plug in as soon as they park?)
That's a different matter. Preconditioning is the BMS actively heating up the battery so the internal temperature could be ready for DC fast charging (whether by scheduling or "navigate to charge").
The bZ4X cold weather charging problem is caused by the CATL battery having much worse low temperature cycle degradation due to dendritic growth than the Panasonic battery. All car makers limit DC charging speed at low temperatures, but the threshold is different. Toyota has a much more conservative approach that disallows fast charging below certain outside temperature with the CATL battery period. It's a passive-aggressive way to say "this supplier sucks, wait until we find a better one".
In other words, preconditioning is a function that helps with battery longevity in winter, not limiting DC charging at low temperature decreases battery longevity in winter. They actually do exactly the opposite thing.
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Looks like the wheel issue is resolved
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Toyota Resumes bZ4X Production After Fixing Wheel Hub Bolt Issue
In a filing with Japan's transport ministry, Toyota said it would make sure wheel hub bolts were replaced and properly tightened in new cars.
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Toyota Halves bZ4X Lease Down Payment In Japan To Spur Sales
Toyota initially aimed to lease 5,000 bZ4X EVs in the current fiscal year, but the boss of the firm's Kinto lease unit said that would be difficult to achieve.
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Toyota BZ4X review | Autocar
Toyota's electric crossover finally makes it to UK roads. It's on good form – just don't expect fireworks
Toyota BZ4X review | Autocar
Toyota's electric crossover finally makes it to UK roads. It's on good form – just don't expect fireworkswww.autocar.co.uk
Pricewise VW ID4 is almost 10k chepaer than this in UK. Is BZ ten grand better car than ID4? I kind of doubt it. If you look at the pricing BZ is mora of a Tesla Y competitor and while that might seem silly at first it's kind of not. This car is targeted toward Toyota loyals who might have thought of switching to some BEV so this one comes in the last second right before the bell to make sure they don't leave the stable.
After all switching from Toyota to Tesla is like going from still water to soda everyday. Tesla has a lot of perks but it's missing so many things that you find in soccer mom vehicles. I will take myself as an example, I tried so hard to like any of the Teslas but once the cool factor wears off (after like two weeks) I hate every bit about it. The only Tesla I would ever consider is Performance beacuse with that one at least I know why I sacrificed so many things. I would pick any BEV Audi over Tesla 10 times out of 10 and I didn't even like Audis but I do now after seeing what MB did with their Chinese EQ jelly bean line.
BZ and it's reskin RZ are not my cup of tea much like any other production Toyota (I am more of a Honda and Mazda guy when it comes to pedestrian cars) but new BEV Lexus RX would hit the sweetspot like asap. I don't have to tell you about possible BEV LC as it is right now. It would be an instant buy.