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Best Car March 10, 2024 issue [Magazine]

"Engine Return Theory" - Morizo

Not the best translation, but talks more about Toyota not moving to full electric vehicles.
It would be more helpful to post the original Japanese text instead of machine translations.
 

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So according to that, Toyota is working on a 2.2L 4 cylinder version of the G16E? Am I understanding that correctly? I kinda struggle seeing where that would be used. The MR2 makes the most sense, but aside from that, I dunno. The rumored 86 sedan and wagon? GR Camry? ES-F? RX-F? None of those seem to be a justifiable business case for a whole new engine, especially with the T24, S20, and hybrid as options.

I think if Toyota were to add cylinders to the G16, they should add three more and have a TT I6 to use in the Supra, RC+LC, IS-F, and LS.
 
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So according to that, Toyota is working on a 2.2L 4 cylinder version of the G16E? Am I understanding that correctly? I kinda struggle seeing where that would be used. The MR2 makes the most sense, but aside from that, I dunno. The rumored 86 sedan and wagon? GR Camry? ES-F? RX-F? None of those seem to be a justifiable business case for a whole new engine, especially with the T24, S20, and hybrid as options.

I think if Toyota were to add cylinders to the G16, they should add three more and have a TT I6 to use in the Supra, RC+LC, IS-F, and LS.

That's what I want. 😫
 

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One of the earliest BestCar rumors on the GR GT3 (right after Tokyo Auto Salon) was that the racing engine will actually be a 4-cylinder. Maybe the old 5.4L will live on for a couple of years, but the TTV8 was not supposed in the race car because it's too heavy and way oversized for GT3. The G16E-GTS already makes over 500PS with factory internals, making a 600PS+ 4-cylinder version is trivial.

Toyota's most successful racing engine in history was the 3S-GTE and 503E derived from it. 850PS from a 2.1L I4. Won almost every category it raced in. Having a really small, light, durable, easy to repair I4 is a big advantage in motorsport. A "G22-GTS" will be 2157cc which is almost identical to the 2142cc 503E.

So I think the LFR and GR GT might actually be twin models with the former being a 1000PS V8TT PHEV and the latter being a 500PS I4 ICEV but much lighter and suitable for racing.
 
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