8th Generation Lexus ES Megathread (ES 350h, ES 350e, ES 500e)

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Fisker was ODM - everything was built by suppliers, and outside factories.

Lots of issues messed up the whole brand.

Same suppliers do a lot better job with same technology when integration is done by manufacturers.

Thus the real difference in OEM vs ODM

Over ten years ago big heads in automotive industry, those who were not under a contract from any conglomerate manufacturers at the time, thought that the future of automobiles will be in plug and play model like cellphones market at the time. That's why they all rushed out to setup some ventures trying to be first in the line for the parts bin. It turned out they were semi-right. Plug and play model exists in solely China for now and it's flourishing. Until Chinese government abandons plans of brute dumping of global BEV market and once they do majority of Chinese brands will just disappear in a very short period of time (This last sentence is solely my opinion).
 

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that temu android xl screen is nice if you like blocking the center of view

It seems to be the same, don't forget there was a small facelift:

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It looks like the right of the steering wheel doesn't use the touch interface for the HUD. That would be small good news besides keeping the clock. I've seen reviews of the RX with the touch on the steering wheel and it looks like it's not user-friendly at all and very distracting.
 

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I actually like prefacelift Kia K5. Facelift is a huge downgrade. Same with Hyundai Santacruz, a facelift is a downgrade.