5th Generation Toyota RAV4 Master Thread

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I wonder what the next gen RAV4 will be. Given its sales success I think it will be fully redesigned, not like the Camry. With the new 2 litre turbo it might even get a GR version and same real TRD package.
 

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I wonder what the next gen RAV4 will be. Given its sales success I think it will be fully redesigned, not like the Camry. With the new 2 litre turbo it might even get a GR version and same real TRD package.

2024 is already the 7th year or production for this generation, which is one year longer than the last generation. I would kinda expect something new for 2025, but it seems like we would’ve heard something by now.

How far along is development of the new 1.5 and 2.0 engines? I was under the impression those are still a few years out.
 

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2024 is already the 7th year or production for this generation, which is one year longer than the last generation. I would kinda expect something new for 2025, but it seems like we would’ve heard something by now.

How far along is development of the new 1.5 and 2.0 engines? I was under the impression those are still a few years out.
We'd have seen something by now if they were coming as MY25. IMO, the Rav4 will lag the Camry by a year like it did in MY19. Figure the Highlander and the Sienna will be MY27.
 

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I wonder what the next gen RAV4 will be. Given its sales success I think it will be fully redesigned, not like the Camry. With the new 2 litre turbo it might even get a GR version and same real TRD package.
I doubt it will given as much as a makeover as the transition to TGNA. Toyotas mantra is usually refining the platform with a mix of old and new powertrain depending how far the EOL the current suite of engines lie, new trim levels, and interior layout. The rav4s sell themselves, the less work required on toyotas ends, the better it is for the shareholders.
 

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2024 is already the 7th year or production for this generation, which is one year longer than the last generation. I would kinda expect something new for 2025, but it seems like we would’ve heard something by now.

How far along is development of the new 1.5 and 2.0 engines? I was under the impression those are still a few years out.
The 2.0 turbo engine was finished already. BestCar reported that the engine was ready before they could find a product to put it in, because of the plan to make the Celica a BEV. But plans have changed.

I think most of TMC products in the next 3-4 years will be major facelifts like the Camry, because right now it's unclear when the new emissions and safety regulations are put in place.
 

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So this has become one of Toyota's most important global products alongside the Corolla and yet we haven't heard of a single concrete thing about the next generation? I have heard some whispers and rumors but nothing more.

Expectations for the next generation are high because the Rav4 is competing in an extremely competitive segment right now, and also because the current generation has a number of flaws and weaknesses that need to be fixed and addressed without introducing a variety of new problems. I pray that Toyota delivers; Toyota cannot afford to disappoint with the next generation Rav4.
 

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So this has become one of Toyota's most important global products alongside the Corolla and yet we haven't heard of a single concrete thing about the next generation? I have heard some whispers and rumors but nothing more.

Expectations for the next generation are high because the Rav4 is competing in an extremely competitive segment right now, and also because the current generation has a number of flaws and weaknesses that need to be fixed and addressed without introducing a variety of new problems. I pray that Toyota delivers; Toyota cannot afford to disappoint with the next generation Rav4.
I expect it to be as revolutionary as the new camry. The competition is getting stronger, but have really yet to make dent on the sales numbers. Not the best motto, as thats what the big three did back in the 70s and well we all know how that went.
 

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So this has become one of Toyota's most important global products alongside the Corolla and yet we haven't heard of a single concrete thing about the next generation? I have heard some whispers and rumors but nothing more.

Expectations for the next generation are high because the Rav4 is competing in an extremely competitive segment right now, and also because the current generation has a number of flaws and weaknesses that need to be fixed and addressed without introducing a variety of new problems. I pray that Toyota delivers; Toyota cannot afford to disappoint with the next generation Rav4.
That's nothing new. Toyota has always been very secretive. I expect the introduction of the next generation of the RAV4 to mirror that of the Camry last year: unveiling in October or November (this year?) -- with strategic leaks beforehand -- prior to a formal introduction at the LA Autoshow, followed by hands-on reviews and drives next spring.
 

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I think.....XA60 will introduce late this year... Perhaps we can see it at LA autoshow or Guangzhou autoshow?😉
A friend work at factory assembly tell me a rumor, Wildlander will coming next gen soon.
 

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Good read.. Basically the RAV-4 is close to 500k sales this year. The best year of the Camry was about 478k sales. Don’t expect a revolution with the next gen as they don’t want to mess with success. The hybrid and prime are key players considering the premium for them.
The success of current RAV4 and Camry is because they are very different compared to previous generations, Toyota took risks by making the different and it paid. If they get boring again by staying the same, sales will shrink. They are no 911.
 

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I think.....XA60 will introduce late this year... Perhaps we can see it at LA autoshow or Guangzhou autoshow?😉
A friend work at factory assembly tell me a rumor, Wildlander will coming next gen soon.
sir if thats their new trim level or replacement for the rav4 marque the cringe is level to infinity and beyond
 

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sir if thats their new trim level or replacement for the rav4 marque the cringe is level to infinity and beyond
It just a China only RAV4 sibling model for GAC-Toyota..... It isn't a trim level or replacement. I apologise for any misunderstanding.
 

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https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison-test/a15131015/top-suvs-2010/

I don't know how I got to this article, but I did, and I thought I should share it along with some of my thoughts. Here's a comparison test of the RAV4 in a class of 8 compact crossovers in 2010. We all knew that the 3rd generation RAV4 was pretty well-received, especially the V6 model, but going through this article shows that Toyota can absolutely wipe the floor with everyone else and make them look like total amateurs.

When I was going through the article, it really made me think about the times where Toyota really knocked it out of the park. Look at the highlights that C&D gave the RAV4, and the high praises it received.

Tested was the RAV4 V6 in the Limited trim. It was the most powerful, the most fuel efficient, the best handling, the best driving, most handsome, and the best feeling car inside and out. This car literally curb stomped the competition and put out jaw-dropping numbers. The next time I saw a proper replication like this was recently when the Grand Highlander Platinum with the Hybrid MAX powerplant became a star overnight and annihilated its competition in all the same ways that 2010 RAV4 did. But, other than their GR cars, and cars like the Corolla, Camry, and Prius, it's not commonplace for the Toyota lineup.

I remember the days when Toyota (and Lexus) would deliberately make moves to purposely blow the competition out of the water and make them look like total amateurs. Want more proof? Just look at how they talked about the CR-V, which is a darling for so many people and compare that to the RAV4 in the review.

I think about the times where Toyota and Lexus did this again, and they did it in numerous occasions. There's way too many examples to cite, but now seeing Toyota being complacent with Lexus and not giving Lexus the autonomy it really deserves, it's a huge fall from grace.
 

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The RAV4 PHEV does the same. Nothing in this segment comes close to it. The only thing dragging it down is the ridiculous price.
 

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The RAV4 PHEV does the same. Nothing in this segment comes close to it. The only thing dragging it down is the ridiculous price.
  • Plug-In Hybrid (PHEV) Market Share Remains Stubbornly Low: Despite recent efforts by manufacturers to pivot to PHEVs as a bridge to full EV adoption, PHEV market share remains below 2% of the total automobile market. This compares with 9.4% for battery electric vehicles (BEVs) and 10.7% for hybrid vehicles (HEVs). Meanwhile, the total number of available PHEV models in the market (41) is larger than that of HEVs (39).

  • Large Gap Emerges Between PHEV and BEV Purchase Prices: PHEVs are significantly more expensive to purchase than BEVs or HEVs. The average customer-facing transaction price (CFTP),[1] for a PHEV in the compact SUV category is $48,700. That compares with an average CFTP of $37,700 for a HEV and $36,900 for a BEV in the compact SUV category.

  • PHEVs Missing the Mark on Customer Satisfaction: Overall customer satisfaction with PHEVs has been significantly lower than BEVs. Overall satisfaction with PHEVs is 669 (on a 1,000-point scale), while mass market BEVs (716) and premium BEVs (738) score significantly higher.

Excellent point. Phevs arent hitting as the Hevs.