Definitely. The Sienna is shorter than Sequoia so this should be too. It's still a mid sized suv not full sized
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4th Generation Toyota Highlander (and Grand Highlander) Thread
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Just give me 210+ inches length for this.
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At the final thoughts section, Mark said "this is the last video of Toyota/Lexus vehicles before Grand Highlander comes". Considering that they review Toyota/Lexus very frequently like at 2 or 3 a month, are we having media access/reviews on GH as soon as it is introduced?
First-Ever Grand Highlander will Have Adults Calling Dibs on Third Row Seats - Toyota USA Newsroom
PLANO, Texas (Feb. 1, 2023) – Serious spaciousness – Toyota is giving a glimpse inside the first-ever 2024 Grand Highlander ahead of its world premiere on February 8, 2023.
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Let’s not get too excited by the third row. The “adult” might only be like 5’5” and the middle row seat is all the way forward with a child seat. I’ll reserve judgment until the unveil but my money is on the CX-90 for this segment.
That is exactly what it is, 2nd row moved forward to adult unusable.
If not, in case Americans do not know, in Europe there is a type of vehicle that better meets their needs, than any of their CUVs/SUVs/truck, and that is vans.
They also come with AWD.
If not, in case Americans do not know, in Europe there is a type of vehicle that better meets their needs, than any of their CUVs/SUVs/truck, and that is vans.
They also come with AWD.
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That is exactly what it is, 2nd row moved forward to adult unusable.
If not, in case Americans do not know, in Europe there is a type of vehicle that better meets their needs, than any of their CUVs/SUVs/truck, and that is vans.
They also come with AWD.
Front seats in Sienna quite uncomfortable. Wind/road noise is more than a nuisance. Everything in the Sienna is focused on the back two rows, very little front seat passenger comfort/space imho.
I'm more than willing to give up a small bit of rear function for improved driver/front passenger ergonomics and hence why somewhat hopeful that GH or TX will be solution (though doubtful will be large enough interior wise).
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Same as the LMThat is exactly what it is, 2nd row moved forward to adult unusable.
If not, in case Americans do not know, in Europe there is a type of vehicle that better meets their needs, than any of their CUVs/SUVs/truck, and that is vans.
They also come with AWD.
All this extra hassle because Americans refuse to buy minivans. They would spend twice the money just to avoid buying a minivan.
Having to transport 5-6 people in a 3 ton vehicle and driving pickup trucks to get grocery are the most irrational consumer behaviors I've ever seen. I'm not even talking about environment impact but the financial impact to owners themselves.
Having to transport 5-6 people in a 3 ton vehicle and driving pickup trucks to get grocery are the most irrational consumer behaviors I've ever seen. I'm not even talking about environment impact but the financial impact to owners themselves.
Cousin owned one. Seats 6 people very comfortably. Individual captain's chairs with reclining and footrest. Carries 12 suitcases. Powered by a 255hp 2.0T I4 but still enough power because vans are also lightweight.
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I couldn’t agree more! I am so frustrated and saddened by the fact that sedans are dead in the U.S. As a kid, my family of 4 comfortably sat in a 4 door midsize sedan on cross country trips, with luggage and a cooler full of lunches, snacks and drinks in the trunk. It’s do-able. I’m not sure why we have to all have big suvs or trucks.
My parents was looking for a new vehicle in Hong Kong around late 2020, it was between V260 or Alphard. Ultimately they went with V260 because the waiting list for an Alphard was 12+ months, V260 was available for immediate delivery.
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Doable....Sure. Better options....Many.
Best option is a van. If there was a market as there is for CUV/SUV, vans would also have performance versions that on track would be just as fast as SUVs.
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The biggest cost for auto ownership in the US is depreciation. Trucks and SUVs tend to hold their value better than cars -- which does tie into the irrational part of it -- but it is a fact that buyers consider. Depreciation isn't very efficiency dependent because gas still just isn't very expensive in the US.
I'm about to sell my 4Runner I've had for 7 years. Going from sticker to today's value, it will have lost around $1700/yr. Fuel for the vehicle has roughly been $1500/yr. Had I chosen a 30mpg sedan like a V6 Avalon instead, I would have spent $1000/yr on fuel but the depreciation would have been closer to $2800/yr. All the fuel savings were eaten up by the depreciation. If gas gets really expensive, all those numbers change. Even at today's elevated gas prices, the operating cost isn't drastically high.
This is what the great country of the USA is. We, the people, have choices and that's great. If you don't live in America it is hard to understand (I know you said you moved here few months ago but still). Yes, transport 5-6 people in a 3 ton vehicle or driving pickup trucks to get grocery is such a waste. The same can be said for 2 people living a 5000 sq ft home with 8-cars garage. If you CAN afford it then Why not.
This is Do-able but would you turn down the option to travel the country in a $100k Slades, Navigator, GLS, or LX600? I doubt that. The point is - it is GREAT to have options and the freedom to choose it