(2025MY+) 380D Camry Discussion

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Something that has been on my mind is how the current generation Camry is dimensionally very similar to the last GS. See below: (2025 Camry on left; 2020 GS on right (per CarandDriver))
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Notably, the GS trunk is bigger by about 3 cubic feet as well (but the hybrid version is only marginally bigger than the Camry).

I've always been under the impression that RWD platforms are less space-efficient; so what gives? I have heard the new TNGA platforms aren't particularly space efficient (both FWD and RWD), but it's surprising that FWD packaging yields no benefits. I guess the front overhang negates any efficiencies gained in packaging.

Besides these concerns, I actually do love the new Camry. I recently upgraded to a 2025 Camry XSE FWD from a 2017 Camry SE (non-hybrid), and the difference is night and day in terms of ride quality/NVH/tech/driving feel (granted to be expected given the upgrade in trim levels and jumping 2 generations). I initially had qualms about the new Camry, but the quirks I was not a fan of initially I have come to tolerate/even appreciate. The advancements in the Camry make me wonder how things could have been for a new GS...but one can only wonder.
 
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Depends on execution of said rear wheel drive platform.

BMW's RWD CLAR platform on the 3er for example is more space efficient than the FWD/AWD-based platforms of Acura, Audi, and Volvo
 
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b.ba said:
Something that has been on my mind is how the current generation Camry is dimensionally very similar to the last GS. See below: (2025 Camry on left; 2020 GS on right (per CarandDriver))
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Notably, the GS trunk is bigger by about 3 cubic feet as well (but the hybrid version is only marginally bigger than the Camry).

I've always been under the impression that RWD platforms are less space-efficient; so what gives? I have heard the new TNGA platforms aren't particularly space efficient (both FWD and RWD), but it's surprising that FWD packaging yields no benefits. I guess the front overhang negates any efficiencies gained in packaging.

Besides these concerns, I actually do love the new Camry. I recently upgraded to a 2025 Camry XSE FWD from a 2017 Camry SE (non-hybrid), and the difference is night and day in terms of ride quality/NVH/tech/driving feel (granted to be expected given the upgrade in trim levels and jumping 2 generations). I initially had qualms about the new Camry, but the quirks I was not a fan of initially I have come to tolerate/even appreciate. The advancements in the Camry make me wonder how things could have been for a new GS...but one can only wonder.
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The front overhang on a FWD is because the engine and transmission sit in front of the front axle. But I believe that the very tall Dynamic Force engine may necessitate some extra front overhang to ensure enough crush space around the engine.

Here are some personal thoughts on the whole range of TNGA platforms. Everything on the underbody of these vehicles is tucked up nicely, and everything -- with the exception of the exhaust system -- is covered by a flat underbody shield, giving it a very aerodynamic line (but even the exhaust system is tucked up, leaving nothing hanging). The TNGA platforms are also designed to be flexible platforms, allowing for traditional powertrains, hybrid -electric powertrains and EV powertrains, all on the same platform; that must mean some give-and-take leaving a platform that is not ideal for any one type of powertrain.
 
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b.ba said:
I've always been under the impression that RWD platforms are less space-efficient; so what gives? I have heard the new TNGA platforms aren't particularly space efficient (both FWD and RWD), but it's surprising that FWD packaging yields no benefits. I guess the front overhang negates any efficiencies gained in packaging.
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2025 crash standards are much tougher than 2012 crash standards. The GS won't even earn an acceptable score today. Cars grew by about 10cm in length in the past decade for the same amount of interior space.
 
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