(2025MY+) 380D Camry Discussion

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qtb007 said:
IMO, the compromises that come along with a GR-Four style 4WD system are not appropriate for what are effectively commuter cars. Those compromises include a bunch of additional mechanical drag that impacts performance and fuel efficiency while requiring space for a prop shaft to run through the cabin hurting space efficiency. The separate rear motor also gives the vehicle some opportunity to efficiently change the front rear bias without using a heavy, costly, inefficient center coupler. The AWD in a Camry just needs to be able to help the car get going in the snow and maintain momentum in slow speed bad weather driving. The eAWD does a good job of this despite not passing the 3 roller test (which, TBH, isn't relevant at all to normal driving).

Anecdotally, the eAWD on my wife's UX300h has been really impressive so far. It doesn't have an obvious FWD feeling and the more powerful rear motor that came with the 300h is shown as contributing up to 60mph. So, it is effective where AWD is really useful. That's a big improvement over the previous model that had very limited input from the rear motor. For cars that are neither rock crawlers or track machines, this is a very balanced system.
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Because the eAWD is electronic means it should be much more easily integrated with other electronics systems like traction and stability control, and much more easily configurable. I would not be surprised if Toyota is tweaking parameters right now to make the eAWD system work better -- as well as the mechanical system.
 
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qtb007 said:
Isn't that basically the SE grille? I'm undecided on which I like overall. I think the black grille is more conventionally attractive, but I think the body color grille definitely looks more futuristic. It's a good at illustrating the transition to what we'll more likely see on BEVs.
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oh mahn i didn’t know lol
 
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F1 Silver Arrows said:
Doesn't mean he knows anything about them. Dude is as out of touch as they can get.
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Some have been criticizing Doug for his prior Land Cruiser ownership; he didn't do his 200 any good as he did some "janky" repairs to it as it had sit mostly on Nantucket, and probably the reason why he got rid of it because he didn't give it the proper care it deserved (Or take it to the right mechanics to work on it).

Wonder when he will put his TRD Pro Sequoia on C&B...
 
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Does the Prius AWD or Camry AWD drive better?

Two issues with the Prius is the angle of the windshield (too sharp) and the rear visibility is cut off by the smaller window/spoiler.
 
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2025 Toyota Camry vs. Kia K5 vs. Hyundai Sonata vs. Honda Accord: Family Sedan Comparison Test!​

And the Winner Is ...​

The winner of this comparison? The 2025 Toyota Camry. It offers the most modern and complete package of powertrain, features, driving feedback, and price. It has incredible fuel economy, and there’s even the option of AWD. Cars like the Camry are often accused of being “boring appliances.” That’s no longer the case, as the new one is genuinely fun to drive. We feel buyers will get the most for their money here.
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Not much of a competition here lol, we all know what happened to the Accord and Hyundai/Kia's regular fwd based cars always have crappy chassis. While the new Camry is basically an improved version of the previous Camry.
 
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2025
Camry- 309,876 (up 6%).
Accord-162,723 (down 18%)
Malibu- 117,319
Altima- 113,898
Sonata- 69,343
K5-46,311

Toyota absolutely nailed the Camry. Accord went from selling 1-1 to nearly 2-1 in favor of the Camry which is insane to me.
Malibu and Altima are being discontinued but sell better than the Sonata and K5 combined. Sonata sales did jump like 55%
 
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mikeavelli said:
2025
Camry- 309,876 (up 6%).
Accord-162,723 (down 18%)
Malibu- 117,319
Altima- 113,898
Sonata- 69,343
K5-46,311

Toyota absolutely nailed the Camry. Accord went from selling 1-1 to nearly 2-1 in favor of the Camry which is insane to me.
Malibu and Altima are being discontinued but sell better than the Sonata and K5 combined. Sonata sales did jump like 55%
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Shows how important looks are for cars that don't have a fancy badge.

A new generation Accord that doesn't look like a Honda: Sales dropped

Hyundai un-uglyfied the Sonata with a face & butt-lift: Sales increased
 
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carguy420 said:
Shows how important looks are for cars that don't have a fancy badge.

A new generation Accord that doesn't look like a Honda: Sales dropped

Hyundai un-uglyfied the Sonata with a face & butt-lift: Sales increased
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Agreed it’s a style conscience market. Sedans more than ever have to look good or people will just buy a crossover.
 
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