The new BMW 5 Series and i5

mikeavelli

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G8 was beautiful especially the GXP.. but I think he’s saying the bmw reminds him of a pontiac.. what a fall from grace
 

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It really completely lost all the presence that 5ers used to have. What's even the point of buying a big luxury car that blends into the background like an econobox?

If it didn’t have bmw badges it could have been an old buick. Or an acura/honda. Hell an old Toyota. It was spectacularly blah.

So disappointed
 

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This is to be expected. European automakers are being strong armed into spending all the design budget on emissions compliance, and with record high energy/labor prices expect more and more cost cutting when it comes to the design.
 

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I might not fully that sentence, but seeing PT Cruiser and Aztek in it when talking about design certainly isn't a good sign 💀
 

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I might not fully that sentence, but seeing PT Cruiser and Aztek in it when talking about design certainly isn't a good sign 💀
You may not like the styling but there can be no arguing that both the PT Cruiser and the Aztek had unique, cannot-be-missed styling.

It may not have been Pontiac's intent to have such polarizing styling but, as I recall, Chrysler did want that unique language.
 

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You may not like the styling but there can be no arguing that both the PT Cruiser and the Aztek had unique, cannot-be-missed styling.

It may not have been Pontiac's intent to have such polarizing styling but, as I recall, Chrysler did want that unique language.

Sulu, ladies and gentlemen.

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The refresh Aztek pictured here wasn't outrageous aside from the front end. The original version with the cladding was terrible from every angle though. I don't know why GM put that on everything back then.

And I can't hate the PT Cruiser. I think it was a reasonable-for-the-time modernization of the Chrysler Airflow, and super useful for hauling stuff at a low cost and better MPG than a van or the SUVs of the time. Like Chrysler's other modern-retro cars they never developed it further though. It could've easily morphed into a small CUV and been very competitive.
 

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The refresh Aztek pictured here wasn't outrageous aside from the front end. The original version with the cladding was terrible from every angle though. I don't know why GM put that on everything back then.

And I can't hate the PT Cruiser. I think it was a reasonable-for-the-time modernization of the Chrysler Airflow, and super useful for hauling stuff at a low cost and better MPG than a van or the SUVs of the time. Like Chrysler's other modern-retro cars they never developed it further though. It could've easily morphed into a small CUV and been very competitive.

We live in a society, Ian.

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