CIF
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CL is fine, just like LE. If you're trash talking then sooner or later you'll get booted.
CL is more about owners' experience or vehicles moddings instead of Lexus news.
Speak for yourself. As someone who used to post on CL a long, long time ago (in an era where Gecko and mikeavelli were very active on CL) CL is not fine, not at all. The individual model forums are not quite what they used to be. Their car chat or general chat sub forums however are absolute disasters; raging dumpster fires really. I've never in my life experienced such atrocious treatment on any forum as I did on CL. As a long-time contributor there long ago, I started to get ostracized and singled out by the mod/admin team. I almost got banned for saying good things about Toyota and Lexus...on a Lexus site. Like Gecko, I wish I was making this up but I'm not.
The mod/admin team there is not just biased, they have malicious intent against pretty much anyone that speaks positively of Toyota and Lexus. The mod/admin team there actively encourages rabid hate against Toyota and Lexus and has done so for many years. Mature, nuanced, civil discussion about Toyota/Lexus or the automotive industry in general is impossible there.