Official: Toyota’s GR GT3 Concept will become the GR GT production car

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DarkSpace6383 said:
Lexus should be moving increasingly upmarket if anything. The Toyota+ models should be what their new "Crown" line of cars is for (and please don't make Crown it's own brand). The range should start from the IS and the NX, both of which need significant improvements. Everyone says Lexus is irrelevant now that Century is, but Century is targetting Bentley, which was never Lexus's fight anyway. If I were in charge of Lexus id be gunning for the Mercedes/BMW and Porsche (C-Klasse/3-Series and above).
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No shade to you… can we all stop pretending century is “challenging” bentley and RR?! No one eyeing the prestige and quality of a rolls is going to cross shop with a FWD based 200k piece of ****. Maybe i’m just being a hater, but I genuinely don’t understand the hype around century. The sedan looks vintage, that’s about it. The SUV is just a boxy genesis with poor proportions. I’d rather have the softest leather, fine stitching, knurled metal trim, with bespoke details over wool carpet all over the place. To each their own I guess.
 
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I remember the lowest number was 900-950, with 986 being the quoted total combined system output, but it was purported to hit four digits. This is the same Toyota that (according to rumors) temporarily paused development because the new AMG GT was a four-seater, not a two-seater. The point is... their priorities are in the wrong place.

Toyota and Lexus used to be an order of magnitude more boring before, but for the LFA they crafted a masterpiece. It was a focused product... cost was no object. Today, Toyota is an exciting brand that is all the rage for different customers, enthusiasts, and journalists alike, but it seems like some aspects are less... focused and is very haphazardly decided on.

I will immediately walk back on my qualms for this product if the price is under 200k USD, but if they're claiming 250k... and rumors are saying that executives are not even flinching at 300-400k USD prices...? Well this is an even bigger mistake than the LFA when it comes to pricing. At least the LFA came out with some world-beating characteristics like design, craftsmanship, and that engine. This car... on the other hand... well... this new car seems to be positioned as a really good racecar but not a very good road car.

Mercedes-Benz (or should I say, Mercedes-AMG) botched their new AMG GT and this was Toyota's opportunity to swoop in and make them look like total amateurs. Instead, Toyota told Mercedes-AMG to hold their beer and off they went to create a product that is compromised. I have full faith that this will be an insanely badass racecar though.
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Oh yes. This car fumbled in so many ways. I don't think this will be a fighter for anything besides a corvette, higher variants of a mustang, and maybe the upcoming ford performance car. AMG GT and 911 are far more luxurious than this car, which is where had a Lexus variant with the TTV8 Hybrid come in, it could have done very well. The styling on that car is beautiful, and 650 would have still been a decent starting point, as it is right in line with the GT63.
 
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No shade to you… can we all stop pretending century is “challenging” bentley and RR?! No one eyeing the prestige and quality of a rolls is going to cross shop with a FWD based 200k piece of ****. Maybe i’m just being a hater, but I genuinely don’t understand the hype around century. The sedan looks vintage, that’s about it. The SUV is just a boxy genesis with poor proportions. I’d rather have the softest leather, fine stitching, knurled metal trim, with bespoke details over wool carpet all over the place. To each their own I guess.
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I mean whether it succeeds or not remains to be seen, but that is at least the goal of century, and it should at the very least do well in asian markets. Also the century is really nice inside, it basically has the features you were describing.
 
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No shade to you… can we all stop pretending century is “challenging” bentley and RR?! No one eyeing the prestige and quality of a rolls is going to cross shop with a FWD based 200k piece of ****. Maybe i’m just being a hater, but I genuinely don’t understand the hype around century. The sedan looks vintage, that’s about it. The SUV is just a boxy genesis with poor proportions. I’d rather have the softest leather, fine stitching, knurled metal trim, with bespoke details over wool carpet all over the place. To each their own I guess.
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The fact that Akio owns a bespoke Century GRMN just feels like trolling at this point.


He'll steal a car from Lexus to prop up his beloved new GR brand, but have them mass produce his own car? Nah, not for us peasants. Oh and Century doesn't get it either, just a reskinned Grand Highlander will be sufficient.
 
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If anyone ever had doubts, it's clear this engine is 7-8 years old and was designed for LS F, LC F, etc. because it would have actually been competitive in 2020 - 2023, but not anymore. 650hp in 2027 and beyond is nothing.

Lexus could have had a full generation of an LS F, LC F, and whatever else "F" with this engine from 2020 - 2026 because it appears it's just been sitting on the shelf for that long.
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Actually with all the issue plaguing the Tundra LX GX, I hope working on this 6-8 years was to make sure it's has bulletproof as the V8 they are retiring.

Also I believe they know the power figure they put out is nothing to write home about is why they are saying "or greater" and "or lesser" for the weight.

I will give them an extremely tiny benefit of the doubt they find a way to increase those numbers especially if they have Porsche in sight.

Although the moment I heard the presenter said "power isn't everything" I was already laughing.
 
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LCLFV said:
The fact that Akio owns a bespoke Century GRMN just feels like trolling at this point.


He'll steal a car from Lexus to prop up his beloved new GR brand, but have them mass produce his own car? Nah, not for us peasants. Oh and Century doesn't get it either, just a reskinned Grand Highlander will be sufficient.
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He didn't just make it for himself. He made it for himself and a handful of his other rich nepo baby friends.
That whole project was a "me me me" project for toys for him and his other didn't-earn-any-of-it buddies.
There are a number of those cars out there.
 
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"Vehicle packaging for an ultimate low center of gravity"

Package the battery in the highest place possible :ROFLMAO:
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This is 2026 and Toyota still doesn't know how to package power inverter and the battery pack into one unit.
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In case you are wondering how it's supposed to be done:
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Super car engine that redlines at 7000rpm:ROFLMAO:
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That is crazy, LC500 is 7,300.

Wild. How is a company this well resourced and staffed this bad at stuff?

The battery positioning relative to the AMG is comical


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I'll also say this, Toyota doesn't engineer as much in house as you think. Even their cars like the Camry rely heavily on firms in India and elsewhere to actually do the engineering of the project, working with Toyota to their spec. Even their door handles are third party. The liners, the foam parts around the trunk, all those little minutiae too.

They intentionally hide this, too.

I have a feeling internally Toyota has more technology and process debt than they have the intelligence to deal with.
 
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