Of course Gecko. I appreciate your class. I'll gladly respond.
I no way have the audacity (neither do any of us for that matter, purely blasphemy and I think pretty shameful if someone were to decry the reliability of a Toyota/Lexus) to compare any other manufacturers reliability (while some may be pretty damn good in their own right) to a Toyota or a Lexus. That's just how good they are. Period. These guys spend so much of their R&D so we can have dependable cars, so we can genuinely love, care, and treat our cars the very best in tip-top shape. They're not trying to make us suffer. While philosophically, some of their ideas are wrong, they want the best for their customers. I love you guys ToMoCo. :heart_eyes::sob:
You mention BMW reliability. I highly believe reliability issues within BMW began to really spurt growth around mid to late 2000's. The E46 M3 and 3-series in general, to my knowledge, were the very last BMW that had solid reliability. So anything then, or before, I would trust BMW. Don't think BMW has always been slacking. They really did the fundamentals of a car the best. They still do a okay job at it now, but it was miles better then. Back in the days when BMW was touted as true "German Engineering" like Mercedes-Benz, Audi, Porsche some Toyota's were notorious for rust issues which caused other gremlins within their cars.
Okay, about the Supra. Now you're right about the BMW engines not being able to maintain extreme high levels of power when tuned, BUT, they're not terrible either. So with an really reliable engine in BMW standards in relation to their other choices (slightly below average for Toyota's expectations), you seriously wouldn't think that a company, which is godlike for reliability, won't make sure they wouldn't add tweaks to the engine and transmission so their customers won't enjoy the hallmark qualities of the Supra? Then good sir, why in the hell would Toyota take almost 5 YEARS (when this thing almost gets released) if they would not focus on reliability and dependability? This project IMHO is 2 years overdue if you ask me. I am going to stay optimistic and say that they are invested (not as much as we want them to be but they still care).
In regards to the turbocharging, insiders said that it is most likely Twin-Turbo making 335 hp, which for a 3.0L Twin-Turbo I6 that is really under-stressed. Also, knowing BMW, they tend to underrate their horsepower and torque levels (ZE LYING GERMANS), so we should expect that too. We can still hold out for another higher power engine. According to insiders, Tada was also keen on having an all on out monster specification on top of this one too, so we will see......
To put it in the most polite way possible, I don't mean it in a rude manner and I apologize in advance if this kind of hits you in the wrong way, but I feel you're a bit too pessimistic. HOWEVER, I cannot blame you. For many years, Toyota has made fake promises (until a few years ago), that their cars are sporty, edgy, or any other superlative that you may connect to something of that level and they did not deliver at the end. I can see how also through the news of the Supra recently you can feel down from it. If you allow me to give you some advice, just believe that Toyota will TRY to do the best they can to make this the best experience possible. I've heard some other people say the exact same thing as me right now and I will also back that up. Look how great the FRS/GT-86/86 are doing in terms of purpose. Like I mentioned in the last post, they have flaws (and flaws are beautiful, that's what gives it personality), but they NEVER EVER strayed away from their original purpose and the vision that they have for the car. Which is why I am still one hell of a fan of Toyota today, and I know you are too (didn't mention Lexus because again, like my last post, they have their own identity and I love them even more for that).
In my experiences with an E39, E60, and F10 the drivetrain reliability have been fine. Its the electronics that you have to watch out for.
It's funny because I hear other things. If you're discussing about the 5-series, it goes like this. E39 (the most legendary 5-series in terms of driving and purity, and no no I am not forgetting about the E60 either, because that also had some redeeming qualities), is the most reliable of the bunch. E60 had a (excuse my language) crap ton of engine/transmission issues where it would internally combust, or it would devour its own engine parts (rods, valves, I can go on), and the SMG transmission would easily give out like no other, and since those transmissions were really expensive, it was just a headache to repair, lastly they had plenty of electrical issues too (battery would give out easily, I was not sure why though). The F10 is quite interesting here. I hear a lot of transmission issues and really odd engine issues too. What made it unbearable was the electrical issues. So they were not interesting cars at all. Now the G series BMW's (non M versions), after a long term review, a magazine reported that the electrical systems were really giving out. The connectivity between the phone wasn't working, or it was shutting the driver out and so many stupid issues. BMW is not the BMW we knew anymore. IMO, BMW's issues are 50/50 either electronics or engine/transmission.
