GR GT Megathread (GT3 Concept will become the GR GT)
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Toyota's Most Expensive Supercar Has Something In Common With Lexus' Cheapest Sedan | Carscoops
The new GR GT echoes some interior design details from a nearly 13-year-old Lexus sedan, suggesting a possible link in Toyota’s strategy
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People are starting to pay attention now lol.Toyota's Most Expensive Supercar Has Something In Common With Lexus' Cheapest Sedan | Carscoops
The new GR GT echoes some interior design details from a nearly 13-year-old Lexus sedan, suggesting a possible link in Toyota’s strategy
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Toyota's Most Expensive Supercar Has Something In Common With Lexus' Cheapest Sedan | Carscoops
The new GR GT echoes some interior design details from a nearly 13-year-old Lexus sedan, suggesting a possible link in Toyota’s strategy
I love how they're intentionally running smokescreen articles to claim it's "parts bin" and not "rebadged", not that that's somehow better but I bet you Akio is sensitive to being too obvious about stealing it.
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I wish the car had a nicer gauge cluster that wasn’t just the same 12.3” screen found in just about every other Toyota. I already miss the days of nice dials. Ironically enough, the LFA had a digital tach because the engine reved so fast the standard tach couldn’t keep up. That gauge cluster was designed nicely though, and got a lot of attention in the media. Probably as much hype as the original IS300 gauge cluster. At the very least, they could’ve used some nice gauge pods, even if they used a screen behind them.
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Controversial but honestly I am kind of glad this was not a Lexus. It does not suit the way a Lexus should look on the exterior or the interior. The LFA design is a LOT better, shame its an EV though.
That's one way to spin "You'll get nothing and be happy."
Here are the patent (US 20260001393) figures of the GR GT powertrain. Components are: 14 (engine), 15 (transaxle), 17 (torque tube), 18 (fuel tank), 19 (high-voltage battery), 20 (power control unit), 21 (12V battery), 23 (MGU), 24 (transmission).
In the primary embodiment of the patent, the HVB is placed on top of the PCU and 12V battery. All hybrid components are placed behind the fuel tank, while the fuel tank sits behind the driver's seat and above the transaxle. This layout is mainly for rear-end collision compliance. During collision, the transaxle absorbs the impact first, followed by the PCU/12V battery, then the main battery, and finally the fuel tank. I think they want to avoid the scenario where a heavy Li-ion battery smashes into the fuel tank which basically means every rear-end crash is instant fiery death for the owner.
Such layout might explain why this car has such a high CoG (higher than both the 86 and Supra). The patent also states the layout reduces the yaw moment of inertia by placing the heaviest components as close to the CoG as possible. This makes sense if you remove all the hybrid components and ONLY leave the fuel tank and transaxle very close to the CoG. The empty space in the front and the rear (around the transaxle) could be used for aerodynamic ducts. Then you can have a really well optimized race car. I think this reinforces the idea that this is a race car first, street car second. The whole hybrid idea is an afterthought and I wish there's a track edition street car without any hybrid. Then we actually have a chance of getting a AMG GT BS fighter.
The hybrid setup is P2. The MGU has 2 wet clutches (29, 30) that allows the vehicle to drive in EV mode and do engine-off coasting/regen. So this is NOT a mild hybrid system but a full hybrid.
In the primary embodiment of the patent, the HVB is placed on top of the PCU and 12V battery. All hybrid components are placed behind the fuel tank, while the fuel tank sits behind the driver's seat and above the transaxle. This layout is mainly for rear-end collision compliance. During collision, the transaxle absorbs the impact first, followed by the PCU/12V battery, then the main battery, and finally the fuel tank. I think they want to avoid the scenario where a heavy Li-ion battery smashes into the fuel tank which basically means every rear-end crash is instant fiery death for the owner.
Such layout might explain why this car has such a high CoG (higher than both the 86 and Supra). The patent also states the layout reduces the yaw moment of inertia by placing the heaviest components as close to the CoG as possible. This makes sense if you remove all the hybrid components and ONLY leave the fuel tank and transaxle very close to the CoG. The empty space in the front and the rear (around the transaxle) could be used for aerodynamic ducts. Then you can have a really well optimized race car. I think this reinforces the idea that this is a race car first, street car second. The whole hybrid idea is an afterthought and I wish there's a track edition street car without any hybrid. Then we actually have a chance of getting a AMG GT BS fighter.
The hybrid setup is P2. The MGU has 2 wet clutches (29, 30) that allows the vehicle to drive in EV mode and do engine-off coasting/regen. So this is NOT a mild hybrid system but a full hybrid.
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No don't get me wrong im not happy we didn't get this car given the alternative. But, I don't think this looks like how a Lexus should.
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Hm wait yeah this is definitely interesting. Back when the LFA was reportedly getting a V8 I assumed that this would be the more raw one with less power (think 911 GT3 rival) and the LFA would be the more high-power one that would release later with a Solid State Battery hybrid system (think GT2RS and Turbo S rival).
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Yup. IMO, ideally what would have happened is this is the GRGT and its meant to rival corvette, and the LFA thing is offered as both a TTV8 Hybrid and a BEV Supercar, and its priced to rival ferrari mercedes and porsche
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That actually looks quite nice. Its a shame the lexus version is electric.
