2024 Mazda CX-90

[mikeavelli]

Mazda's problem is that too many people say "I would buy" but not enough people actually buy.

Sales are up no? Also I think Mazda has moved upmarket and has positioned itself as a premium brand like Acura. So in that space they sell well.

 

[Motor]

 

[Sulu]

Sales are up no? Also I think Mazda has moved upmarket and has positioned itself as a premium brand like Acura. So in that space they sell well.

Yes, Mazda's decision to move upmarket is because "not enough" people have been buying Mazdas. The premium space is more profitable so the automaker can make more money on fewer cars sold.

 

[Tragic Bronson]

Mazda is faring better because during the course of 2022, many more of their dealerships were sticking to MSRP than Toyota and Honda. Subaru dealers were also mostly MSRP in the same regard.

 

[Gor134]

Looks good. Still iffy about the round D-Pillar, but I like it.

 

[nt01]

If Mazda can develop an in-line six, why can’t Toyota do the same? Am I missing something?

 

[Sulu]

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Looks good. Still iffy about the round D-Pillar, but I like it.

Where is that from? Is it a photo of the real thing or merely some artist's speculative render?

 

[Gor134]

Where is that from? Is it a photo of the real thing or merely some artist's speculative render?

Real "leaked" picture

 

[JustADude]

If Mazda can develop an in-line six, why can’t Toyota do the same? Am I missing something?

Because they're FR cars that'd use an I6 still use engines from 2005

 

[NVlaar]

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Looks good. Still iffy about the round D-Pillar, but I like it.

Exterior + Interior as overall package, it is better than any Lexus SUV on the market. (Yes, including that Ultra lux LX with stupid dual screen)

 

[Motor]

Mazda Debuts First-Ever 2024 Mazda CX-90

Three-row SUV Rides on All-New Performance-Oriented Platform, Offers New Electrified Powertrains IRVINE, Calif., Jan. 31, 2023 /PRNewswire/ -- Mazda North American Operations today introduced the...

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The new e-Skyactiv PHEV powertrain, tuned specifically for the North American market, exhibits responsiveness and acceleration that aligns to driver expectations. An impressive 323 horsepower and 369 lb-ft of torque, when using the recommended premium fuel, provide customers with the best of both worlds in terms of performance and efficiency. The PHEV is designed to operate purely on the electric motor in a variety of driving scenarios. To provide owners with flexibility and peace of mind, Mazda's 2.5-liter four-cylinder engine, with a tuned intake to improve torque, has been adapted to work alongside the electric motor and 17.8 kWh high-capacity battery. This is helpful for longer drives like road trips, or when the driver requires maximum acceleration, such as merging onto the freeway.

All CX-90 powertrains are paired with an all-new eight-speed automatic transmission, specifically designed for the electrified longitudinal powertrains and large platform vehicles. The multi-speed automatic gearbox, without a torque converter, achieves smooth and direct acceleration while improving drivetrain efficiency.

 

[mikeavelli]

Super impressive. The phev damn near gas as much hp and as much torque. This is a home run for sure.

 

[Motorsnwheels]

Super impressive. The phev damn near gas as much hp and as much torque. This is a home run for sure.

One review shows the possibility of 70 miles on electric. They’re preproduction so taking that into account but that would be incredible!

 

[Levi]

Real pity no 6 sedan, but we know it won't sell. At least a sedan should come back as a compact BEV.

 

[ssun30]

Could somebody remind me why people say it's a BMW fighter when it's not going to be competitive (and will not compete anyway) against any BMW product?
Also, as an on-road SUV it has less front overhang than any off-road SUV from TMC. Good job on that. Somebody tell Toyota front overhang is bad for approach angle in case they forgot the obvious?

One review shows the possibility of 70 miles on electric. They’re preproduction so taking that into account but that would be incredible!

Not going to happen with a 17.8kWh battery. Maybe in blended mode.

 

[LarryT]

If Mazda can develop an in-line six, why can’t Toyota do the same? Am I missing something?

No need for Toyota to develop any technically advanced N/A powertrains as long as the Toyota fandom continue excusing ineptness & keep buying Toyota's lineup of vehicles with primarily 4 cylinder, 4 cylinder turbo/4 cylinder hybrid engines.

 

[mikeavelli]

Could somebody remind me why people say it's a BMW fighter when it's not going to be competitive (and will not compete anyway) against any BMW product?
Also, as an on-road SUV it has less front overhang than any off-road SUV from TMC. Good job on that. Somebody tell Toyota front overhang is bad for approach angle in case they forgot the obvious?

Not going to happen with a 17.8kWh battery. Maybe in blended mode.

BMW crossovers are fluffy especially non M Sports. This addresses what was asked, larger interior, more power and more towing capacity,

Mazda has quietly moved into the premium space.

 

[mikeavelli]

No need for Toyota to develop any technically advanced N/A powertrains as long as the Toyota fandom continue excusing ineptness & keep buying Toyota's lineup of vehicles with primarily 4 cylinder, 4 cylinder turbo/4 cylinder hybrid engines.

The 500h is a superb unit with the 4 cylinder hybrid which makes substantially more power and torque than this.

 

[Sulu]

No need for Toyota to develop any technically advanced N/A powertrains as long as the Toyota fandom continue excusing ineptness & keep buying Toyota's lineup of vehicles with primarily 4 cylinder, 4 cylinder turbo/4 cylinder hybrid engines.

Toyota's Dynamic Force engines have incredibly high thermal efficiencies of above 40%, higher than Mazda's SkyActiv-G engines and higher than most other mass market internal combustion engines.

Yes, the Dynamic Force engines have lower thermal efficiency than Mazda's SkyActiv-X engine but it seems that engine is not quite ready for mass consumption and is not available in North America.

And a V6 engine, while not as smooth as a straight-6 engine, is a much more versatile engine. Its compact design allows it to be used in both transverse-engine FWD platforms and longitudinal-engine RWD platforms. A straight-6 engine can only be used in a longitudinal-engine RWD platform.

 

[Gecko]

The more I see this thing, the more I love it. Happy for Mazda!