Because the size isn't really in its competitors' class?
2021 Toyota Venza (Global Harrier)
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maiaramdan
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Is it only me that's happy with Harrier got out of JDM ?
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No - I'm happy. This Harrier/Venza strategy makes sense in the TNGA, "Global Toyota" era for sure. Definitely nice to see stronger products everywhere.
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Don't care for the styling inside or out.
The harrier is typically based off the RX, while the NX is based off the RAV4 platform?
Edit seems like this may not be correct, as the RX has grown while the harrier has not. So possible this may form the next NX to better compete size wise with the bigger current RDX, GLC, Q5 and such
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I was mainly looking at it's specs, 4in. longer, roughly the same width, about an inch or so taller than the current NX. That's what I was basing my theory off of.
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I think a lot of that extra 4 inches is the front overhang. Venza has a lot more of it than the Rav4.
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So what if they will give us more GA-K SUV variants , but for Toyota and then putting the next NX/RX on the GA-N???
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These two products are absolutely going to do well. It also proves that when they want to, this company can deliver some real compelling stuff and innovate a bit too.
This is also why you dont brand or name companies in a way that makes you emotionally invested in keeping a mainstream line as a psuedo flagship.
This is all work that could have reached the venza/harrier nameplate as a derivative product of a Lexus product, but because it is "Toyota", in Japan that means "Toyota" probably has dibs on procuring and prioritizing whatever they need including the attention of decision makers and top technical and artistic talent. This should have been the 2019 RX/NX, trickling down to venza/harrier in the next year or two after that.
Either way, this is good for mainstream consumers, another great option. Curious to see how the sienna does, and if it underpins a new LM.
The institution is filled with too many culturally invested people (true believers) who miss the bigger picture for maintaining what they know. I hope we can get a shakeup, there is so much potential and you see these glimmers of it.
The technical execution on the small exterior details is exciting too for Toyota, excited to see what else they can do.
This is also why you dont brand or name companies in a way that makes you emotionally invested in keeping a mainstream line as a psuedo flagship.
This is all work that could have reached the venza/harrier nameplate as a derivative product of a Lexus product, but because it is "Toyota", in Japan that means "Toyota" probably has dibs on procuring and prioritizing whatever they need including the attention of decision makers and top technical and artistic talent. This should have been the 2019 RX/NX, trickling down to venza/harrier in the next year or two after that.
Either way, this is good for mainstream consumers, another great option. Curious to see how the sienna does, and if it underpins a new LM.
The institution is filled with too many culturally invested people (true believers) who miss the bigger picture for maintaining what they know. I hope we can get a shakeup, there is so much potential and you see these glimmers of it.
The technical execution on the small exterior details is exciting too for Toyota, excited to see what else they can do.
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It will sell. That's what matters to the company. I still argue that this could be a dead ringer for a NX replacement.
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It also has less cargo room than the RAV-4. Me thinks Toyota sees this as an opportunity to get a buyer who wants something a bit more stylish ala SUV coupes. At least its completely different from the RAV-4 and Highlander. The Passport is pathetic and something GM would have done in the 1980s.
it is not really stretched, it is just differently designed front/back so it is little bit longer.
More stylish, sportier Rav4.
I could see this working in Europe, if they ever offer it.
Yeah, Rav4 is little bit cheap and loud for me at the price in Europe, Venza does look a lot better in that way.
It would be perfect if it had Highlander engine.
On the outside though, Venza is little bit soft looking, it is perfect for conservative US and Japanese markets, I like two tone Rav4 little bit better in that regards, but who knows how Venza looks in real life.
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Nope. That is one of the best looking SUV in Japan IMO, The GR versions are really nice too.
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If the price is right I can see this competing seriously with the RAV4, and the NX will need to step its game up because this will take some sale away from it especially from buyers who don't care about the badge. Whatever happens, this is another sale magnet for Toyota especially since it's just re-badged Harrier.Finally the Venza equal USDM version Harrier...
I wish power was 250 though and not 219.