1st Generation Lexus RC 300, 350, F and Track Edition Megathread

[James]

I love the lights so cool looking! Honestly the whole car looks so damn good. great job Lexus! Keep up this mentality!

 

[F1 Silver Arrows]

Overall, I am very impressed with this car. A lot of effort and R&D went into this refresh, which is awesome for such a low volume car in a market that's bullish on SUVs.

I'll just say it: RC F Track Edition > Supra. :eyes:

Okay no. Just no. That Supra is an order of magnitude better than the RC F (of any guise) in ANY considerable aspect. The truth must be said. And this is the truth.

 

[Gecko]

Okay no. Just no. That Supra is an order of magnitude better than the RC F (of any guise) in ANY considerable aspect. The truth must be said. And this is the truth.

How do you figure?

 

[Ian Schmidt]

That interior is hot, hot, hot! Nice retro-Lexus touches too - the vents and clock look like they're out of the 4LS, and the HVAC panel looks like the one in the original SC.

 

[CRSKTN]

How do you figure?

$50,000 for a BMW styled by Toyota, with 335hp. I have no idea why some people seem to lose their minds around thinking about the Supra, and as much as I love the old one, I just don't see what's special about the new one.

The idea that it's somehow better than an RCF in every way is ludicrous though. Some people show their bias' clearly.

 

[Faisal Sheikh]

Okay no. Just no. That Supra is an order of magnitude better than the RC F (of any guise) in ANY considerable aspect. The truth must be said. And this is the truth.

How did you arrive to that conclusion? Supra is a great car, but RCF is significantly more expensive so it must be better in order to justify all of that extra cost.

 

[CRSKTN]

How did you arrive to that conclusion? Supra is a great car, but RCF is significantly more expensive so it must be better in order to justify all of that extra cost.

By his logic, the Supra is a more luxurious, more well appointed, better built, more reliable (bmw parts), car.

Edit: removed personal jab as per the rules, will stands behind my view of a certain politician and their supporters.

 

[James]

By his logic, the Supra is a more luxurious, more well appointed, better built, more reliable (bmw parts), car.

It reminds me of the mindless, broad strokes claims that you see people like trump supporters make.

Let’s keep politics out of this please some of us might see the other side that way.

 

[Gecko]

Let's keep politics, name calling and personal attacks out of this thread, please. I have PM'ed CRSKTN and asked him to amend that post.

Thanks.

 

[James]

Let's keep politics, name calling and personal attacks out of this thread, please. I have PM'ed CRSKTN and asked him to amend that post.

Thanks.

Also I don’t think there’s anything wrong with people saying either the Supra or the RCF is better. They both will have their fans and honestly I’m proud of both Lexus and Toyota coming out with sporty cars on the same day! That’s sweet! We ain’t the boring company now are we?? Lol keep it up both of you!

 

[Gecko]

Totally agree. Let's sit back and realize that Toyota/Lexus debuted THREE - T H R E E - sports/GT cars at NAIAS, given the current market conditions, given falling segment share, given the softening economy. That is AMAZING, no matter which one you personally like or don't.

 

[CRSKTN]

Also I don’t think there’s anything wrong with people saying either the Supra or the RCF is better. They both will have their fans and honestly I’m proud of both Lexus and Toyota coming out with sporty cars on the same day! That’s sweet! We ain’t the boring company now are we?? Lol keep it up both of you!

If he had been reasonable I don't think anyone would have objected, but this is what he posted:

Okay no. Just no. That Supra is an order of magnitude better than the RC F (of any guise) in ANY considerable aspect.

Emphasis is theirs, not mine. That's a ridiculous assertion.

 

[GoHuskers]

Damn. I love both versions but man the Track interior is awesome.

@krew, your original article from this morning said it has 72 hp.

 

[CRSKTN]

Totally agree. Let's sit back and realize that Toyota/Lexus debuted THREE - T H R E E - sports/GT cars at NAIAS, given the current market conditions, given falling segment share, given the softening economy. That is AMAZING, no matter which one you personally like or don't.

Agreed. Consumers have a lot of options these days, I think this sort of stuff is very compelling.

In recent years it seems like Lexus has been making more of an effort to be viewed as a lifestyle brand. The recent yacht which had a buyer shortly after being announced, probably reinforced that there is something there.

I think it's a reflection of the (potential) next 100 years of change in transportation. As shared vehicle options increase, and with automation making driving dynamics a fundamentally different issue in the long term, combined with other forms of transportation becoming economically viable alternatives to car ownership, how do they retain mindshare necessary to build their brand and remain competitive?

Embedding yourself into people's lives in other ways is one route.

Rambling aside, what this probably means is more exciting stuff in the near to mid term as the company leverages their brand to sell you some future Toyota "simple living" style household accessories or Lexus branded (and I mean different than the off the shelf dealer gear) products, and events. Others may know better but I imagine they already do this to a large extent.

Combined with the inevitable size reductions that will be pursued in electric systems, cars are going to be a much different thing compared to today. Very exciting to see it all materialize.

 

[mikeavelli]

With 60 or so being made that just makes me horny...... lol....

I can't wait to see it in person and now am kicking myself in the head for not going to Detroit...

 

[F1 Silver Arrows]

All right I will stay cool and whoever made personal jabs is happy they pulled back their words or else it wouldn't be pretty. I will discuss with Gecko only because it seems like some new members *COUGHS* @CRSKTN don't know what they're talking about. I'll let it slide this time.

I don't feel like making sentences so I will speak via a list.

1. Infinitely more modifiable (downpipe and an average tunes takes this thing to 400whp).

2. It is extremely lighter than any RC F.

3. The RC F Track Edition is the final form of the RC F before it bows out for this generation (however not the Supra )) ).

4. @Faisal Sheikh I know we do disagree on this but in terms of platforms, the Supra platform is more taut and more planted than the RC F's platform. The platform is lighter, more rigid and is a lot more dialed in (in terms of balance).

5. There is a extremely high chance for a stick. Unlike the RC F.

6. Almost an extension of number 3, but we took the BMW CLAR platform (not going to call it a Z4 platform because it was codeveloped) and the engine and we can outsource them later. Who says we can't build a Toyota engine out of that? All we needed was a stupidly good block at the bottom end and everything else it can be done by Gazoo Racing/Toyota. Toyota wasn't going to spend a billion dollars on an engine. If you see fangirls screaming about that fact, roll your eyes, scoff at their idiocy and leave them to be by themselves. If you actually are feeling nice, comment why thats not true.

7. There is a lot more riding on this car (in terms of expectations) than any other Toyota/Lexus product. Ever. Maybe Some Lexus products like the LS, GS, IS, LFA, F cars.

8. And if you guys don't think it's better than the RC F now, ultimately it will. Toyota will not be leaving the Supra alone like it did with the FRS/GT86/86. They will be injecting so much R&D cash and intel into the Supra like never before.


This is just part of why I believe it is better (and if you guys don't think it is, it will be better than the RC F very soon). This is the dawn of a new legend. Just, please trust Toyota this time. They never skimped on the fundamentals of a sports car.

 

[Alexander Li]

I never thought I'd live to see this day. The numbers don't disappoint.

 

[Faisal Sheikh]

None of that supports your argument "Supra is better in every way than any variant of the RCF" because it isn't. In some respects, yes it is. I will leave it at that.

p.s. Its final test weight with all fluids will be over 3500+ lbs (dry weight is 3384 lbs). It is light, but not "extremely light".

All right I will stay cool and whoever made personal jabs is happy they pulled back their words or else it wouldn't be pretty. I will discuss with Gecko only because it seems like some new members *COUGHS* @CRSKTN don't know what they're talking about. I'll let it slide this time.

I don't feel like making sentences so I will speak via a list.

1. Infinitely more modifiable (downpipe and an average tunes takes this thing to 400whp).

2. It is extremely lighter than any RC F.

3. The RC F Track Edition is the final form of the RC F before it bows out for this generation (however not the Supra )) ).

4. @Faisal Sheikh I know we do disagree on this but in terms of platforms, the Supra platform is more taut and more planted than the RC F's platform. The platform is lighter, more rigid and is a lot more dialed in (in terms of balance).

5. There is a extremely high chance for a stick. Unlike the RC F.

6. Almost an extension of number 3, but we took the BMW CLAR platform (not going to call it a Z4 platform because it was codeveloped) and the engine and we can outsource them later. Who says we can't build a Toyota engine out of that? All we needed was a stupidly good block at the bottom end and everything else it can be done by Gazoo Racing/Toyota. Toyota wasn't going to spend a billion dollars on an engine. If you see fangirls screaming about that fact, roll your eyes, scoff at their idiocy and leave them to be by themselves. If you actually are feeling nice, comment why thats not true.

7. There is a lot more riding on this car (in terms of expectations) than any other Toyota/Lexus product. Ever. Maybe Some Lexus products like the LS, GS, IS, LFA, F cars.

8. And if you guys don't think it's better than the RC F now, ultimately it will. Toyota will not be leaving the Supra alone like it did with the FRS/GT86/86. They will be injecting so much R&D cash and intel into the Supra like never before.


This is just part of why I believe it is better (and if you guys don't think it is, it will be better than the RC F very soon). This is the dawn of a new legend. Just, please trust Toyota this time. They never skimped on the fundamentals of a sports car.

 

[F1 Silver Arrows]

I would love to see your reasoning why it isn't! Do not take offence to anything! I am genuinely curious.

 

[Faisal Sheikh]

I would love to see your reasoning why it isn't! Do not take offence to anything! I am genuinely curious.

Based on what is known so far

- 140 more horsepower/Much faster acceleration
- More luxurious/premium even the track edition with more exotic materials
- V8 high-revving sound/response
- Don't have to sacrifice practicality (even the track edition has the same backseats)