Lexus RC F Track Edition Priced at $96,650 in USA

It's a limited edition car so they charge a big premium for the rarity factor. But it's not a very convincing car for its rarity. I would say it's limited production because they are not confident with sales so they don't lose face if sales figures don't look good.

F1 Silver Arrows

I'll happily move on with Mercedes-Benz and Porsche (and surprisingly but not fully there yet, BMW are starting to catch up in some regards) and I won't look back.

Please do so, and I am not saying this with a negative tone. You should know very well that the way they do business makes them a very unlikable company. I like the brand because I am not a car enthusiast. I just care about electrics and hybrids that kind of stuff, things they are good at. I know it could be very painful to like this brand if you are a hardcore enthusiast. So why not jump ship and not let the company's way of business bother your life.

ssun30

It's a limited edition car so they charge a big premium for the rarity factor. But it's not a very convincing car for its rarity. I would say it's limited production because they are not confident with sales so they don't lose face if sales figures don't look good.



Please do so, and I am not saying this with a negative tone. You should know very well that the way they do business makes them a very unlikable company. I like the brand because I am not a car enthusiast. I just care about electrics and hybrids that kind of stuff, things they are good at. I used to absolutely hate the brand for their open opposition to electrics, and only changed my stance after they changed the narrative.

I know it could be very painful to like this brand if you are a hardcore enthusiast. So why not jump ship and not let the company's way of business bother your life.

I like your genuine honesty. But the reason why I grew to love Lexus vehicles is because I actually grew up with Toyotas my entire life. Lexus was a great brand to attract enthusiasts with their great products (being sporty or luxurious, both sides attracted customers because of how good they were at it). Me being the automotive and racing nut that I am, the TMC family was just great to experience. I was also in love with Lexus because I love reliable vehicles. Their reliability and their dependability gives one an opportunity to relax and enjoy driving without having to worry to drag it to the dealership or the shop. It's a reason why I dislike Land Rover Vehicles (Jaguar to a lesser extent), and have no respect for subpar brands. The only other reliable luxury brand in the world out there other than Lexus is Porsche, with Mercedes close behind them (BMW are in the ballpark as well with their inline-six and V12 engines). I will still stick around to see what they're going to announce. But if I see that they're going to sit on their hands for the next few years, I'll be disappointed but there are marques like Porsche where they are extremely reliable but offer a level of luxury and performance that is just right.

I am quite aware you are extremely into the electric vehicle trend and what goes on in China (they're adopting EVs more than anyone else). But I was taken by surprise how you said you aren't a car enthusiast by any means. But it makes sense because a lot of TMC customers want something with no thrills, no frills. I will bring up my view to all this electrification mess that manufacturers are rushing to, and that I strongly believe hybrids are the future and not EV's. I don't believe we are running out of oil and gas very soon like many people are mentioning. I do think conserving and taking care of the planet is a must but EVs seem to be a waste in terms of manufacturing, creates a bigger mess, has a shorter lifespan than hybrids and ICE engines, and pollute so much more than normal ICE and hybrid vehicles. If anything, I expect NA engines or simply ICE engines to stay for a long time still, as they're getting very economical and are becoming better performers each and every single day. However I do believe in a future with hybrids. The extremely long range is helpful, the performance from a hybrid is great, and it doesn't need an explanation, we have seen and know of many examples by now. And with more focus on developing better and batteries with greater range, and do it in a way that produces less pollution, along with a tried, true, and tested ICE engine, it just makes more sense. Our cars just don't pollute that much anymore, and even the ones that do, contribute to almost nothing in terms of the pollution we're producing (most of it coming from factories, waste, landfills, etc.).

F1 Silver Arrows

I will bring up my view to all this electrification mess that manufacturers are rushing to, and that I strongly believe hybrids are the future and not EV's. I don't believe we are running out of oil and gas very soon like many people are mentioning. I do think conserving and taking care of the planet is a must but EVs seem to be a waste in terms of manufacturing, creates a bigger mess, has a shorter lifespan than hybrids and ICE engines, and pollute so much more than normal ICE and hybrid vehicles. If anything, I expect NA engines or simply ICE engines to stay for a long time still, as they're getting very economical and are becoming better performers each and every single day. However I do believe in a future with hybrids. The extremely long range is helpful, the performance from a hybrid is great, and it doesn't need an explanation, we have seen and know of many examples by now. And with more focus on developing better and batteries with greater range, and do it in a way that produces less pollution, along with a tried, true, and tested ICE engine, it just makes more sense. Our cars just don't pollute that much anymore, and even the ones that do, contribute to almost nothing in terms of the pollution we're producing (most of it coming from factories, waste, landfills, etc.).

I have to agree with this. I check daily InsideEV's content for interesting articles (hard to find 80% their content is bs and biased, sometimes articles and comment section are so biased it's like political extremists) and have learned that in some point we will achieve a society where transportation makes zero emission (read: moving yourself produces no emissions, making machine that moves you produce emissions). How far is it? I think 30-100 years. Also, in my opinion, BEV is not the way. FCV technology is far superior when you consider practicality. Hydrogen can be produced on site with no emissions, it takes no time to fuel a big truck and range is not affected by temperature.
But talk about EVs is useless in our time. There's no sense to make expensive cars for 1% and expect that everybody else would buy it. People like Elon Musk don't consider that there are people in the world that can't even afford the cheapest car in any manufacturers line-up. We should push for better ICE technology like downsizing turbo, start and stop, clean diesel and Skyactiv-X. As these technologies become mainstream, consumers in emerging markets like in India or Nigeria could buy entry level cars equipped with these technologies or import used from more developed countries.
Self-charging hybrid is great invention. I'm so proud of Toyota to bring it into the market. It cuts emissions by half compared to the best ICE engines (excluding Skyactic-X)! The best part is the Japanese philosophy behind it: make it for everyone. 75k Nissan GTR is way better than 200k Bugatti. They make cars for people. Toyota hybrids are really only eco cars that everyone in the first world could afford.
Future is bright since Toyota helped small Japanese manufacturers to bring hybrids to market. Also, Honda and Nissan are pushing Series hybrid to the global market. With these, I think we could see a 10% cut in emissions from cars in a couple of years in certain markets.
But in the end, we should focus on cutting emissions from freight and industry. Think this: there has been talking in Finland to forbid ICE cars in 2030, but in reality, cars account around 19% emission whilst single SSAB steel factory accounts for 10%. By 2030 emissions from cars could be less than half from now simply because of the adaptation of more efficient technologies.

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I appreciate @F1 Silver Arrows , @ssun30 , @flexus your candid respectful exchange of opinions! You help make our site exceptional!

Awe thank you. People like you, @Gecko and @Carmaker1 continue to remind me why this site is so special. If I do ever leave Lexus, but I will never leave this community.

F1 Silver Arrows

I like your genuine honesty. But the reason why I grew to love Lexus vehicles is because I actually grew up with Toyotas my entire life. Lexus was a great brand to attract enthusiasts with their great products (being sporty or luxurious, both sides attracted customers because of how good they were at it). Me being the automotive and racing nut that I am, the TMC family was just great to experience. I was also in love with Lexus because I love reliable vehicles. Their reliability and their dependability gives one an opportunity to relax and enjoy driving without having to worry to drag it to the dealership or the shop. It's a reason why I dislike Land Rover Vehicles (Jaguar to a lesser extent), and have no respect for subpar brands. The only other reliable luxury brand in the world out there other than Lexus is Porsche, with Mercedes close behind them (BMW are in the ballpark as well with their inline-six and V12 engines). I will still stick around to see what they're going to announce. But if I see that they're going to sit on their hands for the next few years, I'll be disappointed but there are marques like Porsche where they are extremely reliable but offer a level of luxury and performance that is just right.

I am quite aware you are extremely into the electric vehicle trend and what goes on in China (they're adopting EVs more than anyone else). But I was taken by surprise how you said you aren't a car enthusiast by any means. But it makes sense because a lot of TMC customers want something with no thrills, no frills. I will bring up my view to all this electrification mess that manufacturers are rushing to, and that I strongly believe hybrids are the future and not EV's. I don't believe we are running out of oil and gas very soon like many people are mentioning. I do think conserving and taking care of the planet is a must but EVs seem to be a waste in terms of manufacturing, creates a bigger mess, has a shorter lifespan than hybrids and ICE engines, and pollute so much more than normal ICE and hybrid vehicles. If anything, I expect NA engines or simply ICE engines to stay for a long time still, as they're getting very economical and are becoming better performers each and every single day. However I do believe in a future with hybrids. The extremely long range is helpful, the performance from a hybrid is great, and it doesn't need an explanation, we have seen and know of many examples by now. And with more focus on developing better and batteries with greater range, and do it in a way that produces less pollution, along with a tried, true, and tested ICE engine, it just makes more sense. Our cars just don't pollute that much anymore, and even the ones that do, contribute to almost nothing in terms of the pollution we're producing (most of it coming from factories, waste, landfills, etc.).

I am pretty sure @ssun30 is by our standards a car enthusiast :)

As to MB, at least in Europe, latest gen is again bottom of the barrel reliability, I think C class finished last in this years UK survey on dependability with biggest number of serious issues that prevented car to be started.

As to the EVs, they are coming because governments around the world are investing billions in subsidizing them... so cost is being reduced significantly together with large subsidies that reduce that price, so for instance 530e ends up being similar or same or lower price than 530d, despite costing a lot more to produce.

@F1 Silver Arrows
praise, you nailed it, Toyota and Lexus want a recognition without working for it !

Lexus missed a complete lineup
Only LS / ES where's the IS / the rumoured 4 door coupe GS / the LQ / GQ aka 7 / 5 seaters

The LX / GX BOF lineup

Even the RX / NX are based on ancient dinosaurs wheelbase

Next RC with no Frankenstein comprising

LCF
LCC
LCCF
GS-F next generation
ISF based on new one
RCF based on new one
RCC based on new one
RCCF based on new one
LQF
GQF

And for Toyota really a lot a lot

Lets get back to RC F and RC F Track Edition, my friends! :D

^^ Yessir. Though let's be honest, this talk was relevant because this is how so many non-LEs think when they see this car.

But yeah, back on track. Heh. I just realized I made a pun.

maiaramdan

Next RC with no Frankenstein comprising

Coming from an actual RCF owner, it is not a compromise at all. End result is a brilliant chassis that handles extreme loads with high torsional rigidity. The entire chassis is constructed as a unibody just like any other chassis. Just the initial design was using existing three chassis to make one out of it since a brand new platform would have costed more.

The extra weight is due to extra chassis rigidity over and above what a normal performance based chassis would be. The reason for that is, the original plan was to make a convertible without the need for added reinforcements (since the chassis/B-pillar are not there on the Convertible). Still, that extra chassis rigidity makes the car far more confidence inspiring at the limit. The added weight is not because of the Frankenstein chassis, but because a convertible was planned as well.

Glowing praises for it.

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2020-lexus-rc-f-track-edition-first-drive-review/

The Lexus RC F Track Edition Deserves the Name




We go for a few hot laps in the most aggressive Lexus since the LFA.
By: Nelson Ireson Photography by: The Manufacturer April 4, 2019PreviousThe Track Edition’s extra diet consisted mostly of reducing rotational and unsprung masses, which pay off even more than sprung mass in terms of dynamics. The biggest single weight savings comes from Brembo carbon-ceramic rotors, which drop a total of 48.5 pounds compared to the steel units. An additional 1.5 pounds are saved at each corner by the fitment of 19-inch forged BBS wheels based on those of the RC F GT3 race car. Titanium exhaust components save another 15 pounds, mostly at the rear of the car, and carbon fiber is used in several additional places to save weight and add rigidity, the roof, hood, and rear bulkhead brace being the primary components.
But it’s not all about weight, even for a Track Edition car. If you want to go fast, you need power, and the RC F Track Edition has it by the bucketful. Lexus claims the Track sports the best power-to-weight ratio in its segment, with 472 horsepower and a claimed curb weight of 3,781 pounds returning a figure of eight pounds per pony. Yet despite its power-to-weight figure and despite Lexus shortening the final-drive ratio from 2.97 to 3.13, the sensation of power delivery is more gradual than explosive, largely because the RC F is powered by a normally aspirated V-8 instead of using forced induction like its competition. The engine unleashes its might with a pleasing rise and peak that combines with a glorious sound to make for an exciting on-track experience, even if it does lack some of the low-end shove of the torquier turbos. The RC F Track Edition’s meaty V-8 is rated for just 395 lb-ft of torque.


Driving the Track Edition back-to-back with the standard 2020 RC F at The Thermal Club near Palm Springs, California, was eye-opening. The updates to the 2020 model make even the standard RC F a friendlier and livelier dance partner, but the Track Edition upgrades take the RC F from track-capable to track-ready. The difference is immediately apparent and appreciated even more after a few laps have heat-soaked the brakes and left the standard car’s pedal feeling long and soft, even if they’re still plenty able to stop the car. The Track Edition’s upgraded brakes are indefatigable, and the carbon rotors and beefy (yet lightweight) six-piston front Brembo calipers make the car much more confidence-inspiring on the track, while retuned brake-pedal travel improves precision in application.

On track the power is ample, and the rear is always ready to rotate the nose toward the apex at turn-in, a tendency that’s easier to modulate this time around thanks to the almost perfectly linear throttle mapping—there’s no more artificially boosted throttle application in Sport+ mode. Likewise, the steering is neither too light nor too heavy, and inputs yield the expected outputs, with enough feel to have confidence in pushing the front end toward its grip limit. In all, the RC F Track Edition feels like it belongs on track as much as any other luxury sport coupe in its price range, and that’s quite a compliment, considering it shares space with the BMW M4 Competition and AMG C63 S.
Unfortunately, despite the images you see here, there weren’t enough cars yet built for us to also get drive time on public roads, so we can’t tell you how that track-tuned strength translates to the street, or if it’s a detriment to the overall comfort, quietness, and long-haul steadiness of the regular RC F. Hopefully we’ll get another crack at it soon—and for a much longer stint.

Until then, we’ll leave it at this: Our short drive indicates the 2020 Lexus RC F Track Edition is the RC F you’ve been waiting for. If you have the $97,675 burning a hole in your pocket, you won’t have to wait long. The additional cars we hoped would be at the event are now rolling off the assembly line and will be hitting dealerships soon.

F1 Silver Arrows

^^ Yessir. Though let's be honest, this talk was relevant because this is how so many non-LEs think when they see this car.

And non-LEs also pissed on the LFA until Jeremy Clarkson said it was hands down his favorite super car of all time. Who cares about what they think, as they clearly cannot think for themselves.

Hopefully someone can make a distinct argument for what exactly the RCF Track Edition is missing for the price offered.

Interestingly, my RCF Invidia full catback exhaust with titanium burnt blue tips is louder than the track edition RCF titanium exhaust. The video still does not do justice to how it sounds in real life. Many more textures and layers.

p.s. Yes, as from the chatter, there were flock of boys and girls from the shop that came out to make videos as soon as my RCF came out of the garage

F1 Silver Arrows

But I was taken by surprise how you said you aren't a car enthusiast by any means.

I'm just not the stereotypical 'I WANT FAST CARS GIVE ME ALL THE POWER!" enthusiast. My hobby is offroading (used to do amateur rallying) and in that respect I am very upset with Toyota's recent strategies with their BOF vehicles and you know I always criticize them for that. I also hypermile all the time which some say is a branch of car enthusiasts.

But even then I genuinely think the RC-F TE is an underwhelming performance car especially for a limited edition.

F1 Silver Arrows

I will bring up my view to all this electrification mess that manufacturers are rushing to, and that I strongly believe hybrids are the future and not EV's.

It's a long story that is irrelevant to this thread, but you are right the near future belongs to hybrids. However here it's just a terminology thing, in the EV industry when we are talking about EVs we include all types of electrified vehicles (HEV/PHV/EREV/BEV/FCV). We don't really care which type wins in the end because they all buy motors, power electronics, batteries, wiring, all the stuff.

ssun30

I'm just not the stereotypical 'I WANT FAST CARS GIVE ME ALL THE POWER!" enthusiast. My hobby is offroading (used to do amateur rallying) and in that respect I am very upset with Toyota's recent strategies with their BOF vehicles and you know I always criticize them for that. I also hypermile all the time which some say is a branch of car enthusiasts.

But even then I genuinely think the RC-F TE is an underwhelming performance car especially for a limited edition.


It's a long story that is irrelevant to this thread, but you are right the near future belongs to hybrids. However here it's just a terminology thing, in the EV industry when we are talking about EVs we include all types of electrified vehicles (HEV/PHV/EREV/BEV/FCV). We don't really care which type wins in the end because they all buy motors, power electronics, batteries, wiring, all the stuff.

Bro then you shouldn't say you aren't a car enthusiast because to me what you just said SCREAMS as a true car enthusiast. Those people who you mentioned are F&F 13 year olds with access to the parent's internet, goes and comments on YouTube about how the new Supra needed a 25 year old 2JZ with 1000 horsepower out of the gate and the STU STU STU STU STUUUUUUU. No. I call those people overprivileged, extremely high expectations, whiny children who have no concept of how the automotive industry or just cars as a whole work. In short, I simply call them idiots.

Car enthusiasts come in many forms, and your passions are sure as hell special. Hell, I even love off-roading and the fact that you said you used to do amateur rallying is beast status. PERIOD.

I appreciate your final paragraph. Have any sort of future but it has to be involved with electric power. Now that's smart! There is nothing wrong with electric power, and if there are a lot of flaws with them, their issues are decreasing like no other. For fuel economy, range, lack of pollution, maintenance and most of all, performance, I would just go with hybrid power.

I tried build on both at lexus.com and here is what I discovered:

1 - RCF weighs 3900 lbs (3780 lbs for the track edition)
2 - Standard RCF now has more packages available and more stand alone options
3 - Carbon Performance package is a $11,300 option with a long list of features, but no TVD.
4 - TVD is only available as a stand-alone option on the standard RCF.
5 - RCF track edition only has one option package available, which is the nav package.
6 - Standard RCF MPS4S tires are optional that come with the 19 inch 20 spoke polished wheels and standard on the track edition

Lexus RC F Track Edition Videos: The Details

Focusing on the differences.

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So, Lexus decided to show how grippy their tyres are and how strong their brakes are by.... Drifting? :p

The Top Gear USA car review: Lexus RC F

Not just as good as an M4 to drive, which it never was, it’s quite possibly better

For:
RC F finally gets the throttle-steering manners we’ve always wanted

Against:
You have to pay a big premium for Track Edition model

Verdict
It’s fair to say we didn’t pull any punches when we drove the first RC F. We hoped it would be a chip off the hallowed LFA block and it wasn’t. Yes, it had a superb naturally aspirated V8 engine and its build quality was fabulous. But it understeered like a limo and ate tyres like a child eats raisinettes. The clever chassis systems did their best to hide all of this on the street, but they simply couldn’t on the track. And we made sure everyone knew that.

But with this 2020 edition of the car, and let’s focus on the limited edition TE version – there will be just 50 available in the US in 2019 – Lexus has shown it hasn’t forgotten what we want from a sports coupe. It now makes a thunderous noise, does 0-60mph in under four seconds, has launch control but, best of all, it can be steered not just by the wheel but by the throttle, too. It’s now not just as good as an M4 to drive, which it never was, it’s quite possibly better.

https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/usa/lexus/rc-f/verdict

Motor

The Top Gear USA car review: Lexus RC F

https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/usa/lexus/rc-f/verdict

Nice car, fast, great sound, probably great for the road, but not really suited for the track (lots of understeer and eats tires). So, why call it a "track edition." Is it worth the extra $35,000 over the base RC F? With only 50 being produced, a few wealthy major Lexus enthusiasts will get one. but IMHO it's overpriced compared with both the RC F base and with its competitors (like M4 and C63 S). PS [I like the earlier review that included complaints from the Lexus engineers. Lexus could have done much better, and that is the somewhat frustrating issue] However, the RCF remains an excellent car.

Better than the M4, by Top Gear? That is high praise indeed :praise:

Gecko

Better than the M4, by Top Gear? That is high praise indeed :praise:

No s***! When’s the last time Lexus was ever better than a German car especially in a performance sector! Lexus can do it if they just put in the time and passion!

Please Lexus you better make a next gen RC or next gen compact Lexus coupe replacement. I hope that there turbocharged six cylinder and a convertible offer the next time. Also please make the next F compact coupe have over 500 hp and less weight. I hope that V8 stays even if it’s turbocharged.

2020 Lexus RC F Track Edition Review: Lighter and Louder

Lexus builds the most exciting RC to date

Production is limited to 400 units globally, with just 50 coming to the United States. Each one is priced at $97,675.

And with that, naysayers will have plenty of ammo. They'll likely point out that the standard 2020 RC F is almost $32,000 cheaper yet shares many of the Track Edition's upgrades, including launch control and the new tires, engine and drivetrain tweaks—and the standard RC F offers TVD. Based on the short time we had with both cars, they'll say the Track Edition, although fun and engaging to drive, doesn't feel much different from the normal RC F, making them wish for things like wider and stickier tires, stiffer suspension, or more supportive seats. Really F it up. We're ready for it.

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/lexus/rc/2020/2020-lexus-rc-f-track-edition-review/