Toyota Land Cruiser Megathread (300, 250, Prado, etc)
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The Capable Toyota Land Cruiser Adventures into 2025 - Toyota USA Newsroom
PLANO, Texas (Oct. 1, 2024) – The 2025 Land Cruiser is the perfect blend of capability and premium features. First introduced in the United States in 1958, the Land Cruiser is the Godfather of Toyota’s incredible off-road heritage. The 250 series Land Cruiser enters its second year as an...
- Impressive 326 hp, 465 lb.-ft. of torque
- Rugged heritage inspired design elements
- Full-time four-wheel drive with center and rear locking differentials
- Land Cruiser grade now offered in monotone Heritage Blue
- On sale Fall 2025 with a starting MSRP of $56,450*
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I want them to do a Land Cruiser TRD PRO with the V35A, Fox shocks, etc.
Don't the dealerships offer aftermarket equipment now with warranty coverage? Or is that just Lexus with the GX?
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I rode in my brother's Land Cruiser as he shuttled me for a 155mi bicycle ride this weekend. His stickered for $70k (LC grade, premium package, 20" wheels) and my '23 4Runner TRD Pro stickered for $57k. IMO, the price difference is obvious. The ride is much more Lexus like than even my Fox equipped 4Runner. Interior materials are significantly better. Again, almost Lexus quality. Acceleration is much, much better. He also managed 24mpg round trip that my 4Runner might have eeked out 19mpg. Having had a little seat time in the Tacoma and expecting the 6th gen 4Runner to somewhat feel the same inside, I think there will be two very distinct flavors between a 6th gen 4Runner Pro in the mid $60k range and a Land Cruiser in the same price range.
His wife drives a Highlander Hybrid Platinum and he did comment in how differently the electric motors apply the assist. On the Highlander, it attempts to use the motors from a start 100% of the time. The LC seems to let the gas engine get everything moving and the motor steps in for mid-throttle conditions. It was surprising to see such a different approach to the electric assist.
His wife drives a Highlander Hybrid Platinum and he did comment in how differently the electric motors apply the assist. On the Highlander, it attempts to use the motors from a start 100% of the time. The LC seems to let the gas engine get everything moving and the motor steps in for mid-throttle conditions. It was surprising to see such a different approach to the electric assist.
The iForce Max system is more similar to a mild hybrid than a strong hybrid. Electric assist typically contributes 20-30% of the total system power on a strong hybrid and less than 10% on a mild hybrid. On iForce Max electric assist is only 10.8% total system power on the 3.4 V6 and 14.8% on the 2.4 I4.
"almost Lexus quality"... but not quite Lexus quality?
Is there no torque boost from the electric motor at low rpm?
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I'm sure there are points where they skimp on materials, but it feels like a cut above what I normally see on a Toyota badged vehicle.
The torque boost seems load-based rather than RPM based. It will add electric boost at low engine RPM if the driver is asking for it. But if you are pulling away from a light slowly, it doesn't see the need to add electric. Which kinda makes sense. It is basically acting like a 2.4L in a big vehicle at that condition, so it is already getting some efficiency improvements via downsizing versus a larger engine (some hypothetical N/A, 4.x L V6 that was capable of 330hp). So the turbo boost and electric assist kick in when you are asking for the performance of a large displacement V6.
300-series is a far more refined vehicle with much better interior materials
comparing to the LX600?
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It also looks stupid, so there's that.
Obviously no. Compared to the 250-series.
? The GR Sport looks better than any 250 series including the GX lol.
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Hard disagree. Saw several GR Sports in Japan. The body looks too big for the chassis. Maybe some big tires to get the proportions back in order, but the LC250 and GX both look a lot better, IMO.
Toyota Land Cruiser Concept Shoots for Stars with Open Air Build - Toyota USA Newsroom
LAS VEGAS (Nov. 1, 2024) – Toyota Motor North America (TMNA) captivated the automotive world with the debut of the innovative Land Cruiser “ROX,” or “Recreation Open eXperience” concept at the 2024 SEMA Show in Las Vegas. This ambitious concept, […]
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