Toyota EV/eTNGA Rumor Thread

[ssun30]

Here is a thread to keep track of Toyota's EV rumors originating from China. If you have any international sources, feel free to add on!

BEV Section. Updated 043020:

In Production:
C-HR "E-engine" (G)/Izoa "E-engine" (F)/UX300e (L)
"LQ" (J)
"Ultra Compact BEV" (J)

Rumored/Planned:
Izoa "E-engine" 18650 upgrade (F)
MPV1 (G): 4885 x 1930 x 1730 x 2850
SUV1 (G): 5172 x 1993 x 1738 x 3060. 131 kW/221 N.m**
SUV2 (F): 4850 x 1840 x 1450 x ____. 150 kW (FWD)/80+80=160kW(AWD). "288-cell Battery"

* All dimensions in L x W x H x WB in mm
** Specs could be intentionally incorrect to mask details of the product.
*** F = FAW-Toyota, G = GAC-Toyota, E = Toyota Europe, A = Toyota North America, J = Toyota JDM, L = Lexus.

 

[ssun30]

PHEV section. Updated 043020:

In production:
Prius Prime (E/A/J)
Corolla Hybrid E+ (F)/Levin Hybrid E+ (G)
RAV4 Prime (E/A/J?)

Rumored/Planned:
RAV4 Hybrid E+ (F)/Wildlander Hybrid E+ (G)
Avalon PHV (F): 44k unit/year planned
Izoa PHV (F): 66.04k unit/year planned
NX400h+ (L)/NX450h+ (L): 400h+ for ChDM, 450h+ for EU/NA.

 

[ssun30]

FCV section. Updated 043020:

In production:
Mirai Gen.1 (A/J)
Sora FC Bus (J)

Rumored/Planned:
Mirai Gen.2 (A/J)
Hino Profia FC heavy-duty semi-truck (J)
Coaster FC minibus (F)

 

[Will1991]

I would add the next-gen IS BEV we're talking on the IS thread.

Epic thread!

 

[ssun30]

I would add the next-gen IS BEV we're talking on the IS thread.

Epic thread!

Sorry, I would like to add that the 'rumor' should be backed by official information, making it not so much of a rumor. Magazine reports (text-only) don't count except when accompanied by spy shots.

 

[Joaquin Ruhi]

@ssun30 : It is worth noting that one of the BEV SUVs will supposedly be shared with Subaru. Should that be noted? Or is that rumor without official backing?

 

[ssun30]

@ssun30 : It is worth noting that one of the BEV SUVs will supposedly be shared with Subaru. Should that be noted? Or is that rumor without official backing?

Which one? The only thing I know is that there will be a ToyoBaru BEV, but not the details.
You can post whatever you think is valid source.

 

[Joaquin Ruhi]

Which one? The only thing I know is that there will be a ToyoBaru BEV, but not the details.
You can post whatever you think is valid source.

I only know the same thing you do, so we'll leave it as is for now.

 

[CRSKTN]

I cant see them doing a PHEV Avalon but not an ES.

ES 450h+, NX 450h+, LF SA (sub UX) 350 or 400h+?

 

[Levi]

Which one? The only thing I know is that there will be a ToyoBaru BEV, but not the details.
You can post whatever you think is valid source.

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Probably not enough. But this sounds quite accurate, Subaru Evoltis, AWD with about 290 PS.

 

[ssun30]

I cant see them doing a PHEV Avalon but not an ES.

ES 450h+, NX 450h+, LF SA (sub UX) 350 or 400h+?

The E-Axle prototype is based on the ES. The only thing we don't know is if it's a HV or PHV.

It is also unknown at this point whether the ES will receive the RAV4 Prime's 225kW E-Four system or will get E-Axle exclusively.

 

[Will1991]

@ssun30 , given the performance difference reported by the journalists, e-axle should be PHEV to have a battery powerful enough to give such a difference don't you think?

Also, LQ has been spoted driving/charging around:

Is this the BEV Toyota hatchback, being built just like this?

I mean, it sure seems a production car, even the interior gear I can spot:

• Camry heated/cooled seat buttons
• Lexus trackpad
• Every Toyota hybrid push start button
• Production steering wheel
• ...

 

[LexsCTJill]

Wow. What a cool find

Interesting vehicle. I kinda like the back

 

[LexsCTJill]

@ssun30 , given the performance difference reported by the journalists, e-axle should be PHEV to have a battery powerful enough to give such a difference don't you think?

Also, LQ has been spoted driving/charging around:

Is this the BEV Toyota hatchback, being built just like this?

I mean, it sure seems a production car, even the interior gear I can spot:

• Camry heated/cooled seat buttons
• Lexus trackpad
• Every Toyota hybrid push start button
• Production steering wheel
• ...

Something else to consider is that there is a fuel door on both sides of the vehicle.

 

[Will1991]

Something else to consider is that there is a fuel door on both sides of the vehicle.

Should be DC and AC fast charging, similar to our UX300e.
Also, given its 300km real word range, maybe will use the same battery pack and electric engine as the Lexus, but on eTNGA platform and on a lower price point.
Given it’s superior aerodinamics and a dedicated platform, it would achieve quite amazing real word results.
Honestly, with it’s official 10years and 1million km warranty it’s a proper offer (just throw CCS please).

 

[suxeL]

Whatever that is, that exterior on the LQ needs alot of reworking.

 

[CRSKTN]

Whatever that is, that exterior on the LQ needs alot of reworking.

i... i like it.

 

[suxeL]

i... i like it.

TOYOTA WE HAVE YOUR FIRST LQ BUYER!!!!!

 

[CRSKTN]

I would totally replace all normal cars with crazy looking stuff like that if i could. Not that the design is perfect, but man some of what they're doing with it is pretty amazing to see on the road.

 

[ssun30]

I would totally replace all normal cars with crazy looking stuff like that if i could. Not that the design is perfect, but man some of what they're doing with it is pretty amazing to see on the road.

And it also drives itself.