Toyota EV/eTNGA Rumor Thread

[spwolf]

If CUVs sell it is smart to have many of them and only one sedan. It is not smart to have no sedan at all.

Eventually... But it would be last thing on the list.

 

[internalaudit]

Doubt it will be 8th of 8th.

Generalizations/extreme views usually fall flat on their faces.

 

[shizhi]

Patent pictures of six concept cars, from EUIPO.
https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/designs/007241112-0001, medium SUV?
https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/designs/007256144-0001, large SUV？
https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/designs/007256151-0001, medium crossover？
https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/designs/007256169-0001, medium minivan？
https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/designs/007262126-0001, compact？
https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/designs/007268115-0001, medium sedan?

 

[Levi]

I like the medium SUV and medium CUV. Hope they are not FWD.

 

[internalaudit]

I like the medium SUV and medium CUV. Hope they are not FWD.

If they are FWD-biased, Toyota would be out to lunch.

Even the Honda E is RWD.

There's so much space in a BEV, only the battery pack needs careful accommodation even on a non- dedicated flexible platform.

 

[Levi]

^ True about the Honda. First RWD Honda since S2000 stopped production in 2007.

 

[ssun30]

I really like the 'sedan' design! Looks like a sedan/coupe/liftback hybrid like the BMW Gran Turismo, but a much better implementation (the BMW GTs look terrible for a good concept).

I like the medium SUV and medium CUV. Hope they are not FWD.

They are more or less confirmed in China to have a 150KW FWD variant and a 80+80KW AWD variant. E-TNGA could be configured in 80KW FWD, 150KW FWD, 150KW RWD, 80+80KW AWD, and 150+150KW AWD setups. There is an intermediate-size motor with unknown output but my guess is 120KW.

There will be an E-TNGA model just using the rear motor module, but it's not the medium SUV/CUV.

 

[Levi]

Sporty Toyota MR-E?

 

[F1 Silver Arrows]

The large SUV and the medium sedan are pretty nice IMO.

The medium crossover looks like it could be a Lexus UX.

Everything else is just... nah...

 

[Will1991]

Don't know if this is this is the best place to post this, but Toyota seems to be pushing hard to delivery a long lasting battery... How long? Perhaps between 20 to 30 years, around the same lifetime as the car itself.

Here it goes, a small conversation between Mr. Akyo Toyoda and Nobel Prize winner Dr. Akira Yoshino:

 

[Will1991]

@ssun30, can we add the RZ450e trademark?

 

[ssun30]

Toyota just became the official sponsor for the 2022 Beijing Winter Olympics providing the same range of electric vehicles as the 2020 (now 2021) Tokyo Summer Olympics. e-Palette, Mirai, and Coaster FCV confirmed as transport for athletes.

 

[ssun30]

Starting from 2021, Toyota will transfer its Gen 3 THS technology to GAC. This is similar to the tech transfer deal with Subaru and Mazda. Despite being a decade old, THS Gen3 is still way ahead of most hybrid solutions and is highly coveted by indigenous brands. Toyota had a 38.5% efficient ICE in 2010 when the average today is still just 36%!

This decade will be the era of hybrids.

 

[shizhi]

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Probably not enough. But this sounds quite accurate, Subaru Evoltis, AWD with about 290 PS.

Forgive me for seeing this information from Subaru now. This Subaru car is almost identical to Toyota's medium suv concept car. We already know from the leaked pictures that the Subaru EV will be available in the spring of 2022, of course, it may be delayed due to covid-19.
Toyota's first BEV product for the global market should also be this SUV, and the Chinese market will definitely get it in 2022. At the Guangzhou Auto Show, FAW Toyota announced the new car to be launched in the next two years and mentioned this EV-SUV. In addition, RZ450e may also be based on it, with a maximum power of about 225kw.

 

[shizhi]

Toyota to Preview All-New Battery Electric SUV

Toyota will preview an all-new battery-electric SUV in the coming months Based on the new, highly versatile e-TNGA platform First step in the release of a portfolio of battery-electric products

newsroom.toyota.eu

First E-tnga model,RAV4 size,cooperate with Subaru.

 

[ssun30]

Toyota Launches

Toyota Motor Corporation (Toyota) announced today a limited launch of the "C+pod" ultra-compact battery electric vehicle (BEV), from December 25, to corporate users, local governments and other organizations that have been exploring new options to drive the popularization of BEVs. Toyota plans...

global.toyota

Ultra Compact BEV called C+Pod. An urban NEV with 9kWh battery and 9kW motor. So it's basically an electric scooter with two seats.

 

[shizhi]

Dong Changzheng,Senior Executive Vice President of Toyota China. In a recent interview with Chinese media, he revealed that Toyota will further demonstrate its new achievements in the field of electrification at the 2021 Shanghai Auto Show.Toyota and BYD's cooperation products will have substantial progress next year. At the same time, battery products suitable for Toyota vehicles jointly developed by Toyota and CATL are also in progress.
At the Guangzhou Auto Show in November, FAW Toyota announced that it will introduce two BEV models in 2022, one is an SUV (should be a product of E-TNGA, BZ series), and the other is an A+ class sedan. This sedan should be the product of cooperation between Toyota and BYD.
At the same time, he also mentioned that Toyota is actively increasing its production capacity in China, and hopes that in 2023, sales in the Chinese market will surpass the US market that year and become Toyota's largest market in the world.

 

[F1 Silver Arrows]

Toyota Launches

Toyota Motor Corporation (Toyota) announced today a limited launch of the "C+pod" ultra-compact battery electric vehicle (BEV), from December 25, to corporate users, local governments and other organizations that have been exploring new options to drive the popularization of BEVs. Toyota plans...

global.toyota

Ultra Compact BEV called C+Pod. An urban NEV with 9kWh battery and 9kW motor. So it's basically an electric scooter with two seats.

So would this be a competitor to the Renault Twizy?

 

[spwolf]

So would this be a competitor to the Renault Twizy?

they already had that... it is B2B crap and not worth our time here.

 

[shizhi]

Toyota China announced that the first mid-size SUV based on E-TNGA will make its world premiere at the Shanghai Auto Show in April.