Toyota EV/eTNGA Rumor Thread

Levi

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Tesla fans just can’t understand this, it creates a short lock in their brain, they are confused because Americans desire Toyota EVs.



“Moreover, within the report, 30 percent of consumers said they'd consider a Toyota as their number one EV choice. Tesla came next with 23 percent, followed by 20 percent for Honda, 15 percent interested in GM, and Ford at 14 percent.

Despite consumer sentiment, these connotations do not correspond to vehicle sales. In 2022, Tesla made up 64% of new car sales. Toyota and Honda's EVs are nowhere near the top.”

 

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I don't know how something as hideous and cumbersome as CCS got so much adoption in the first place. Must be a nightmare to carry a NACS-to-CCS adapter. That being said CCS is designed for 800V and up to 350kW while NACS in its current form won't get 1kV/500kW until 2025. Current specs of NACS is actually the slowest of the three on the market. If you've used a V3 supercharger (250kW peak) you know its average charging speed is actually more comparable to the 170kW CCS. I think all these big car companies chose the 2025 timeline for NACS adoption because 1kV won't be ready before then.
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Japanese car makers really missed a big opportunity to push their standards globally. CHAdeMO 3.0 is the first ultrafast charging standard operating at 1.5kV and 600A for 900kW total and is adopted by China in 2020 (although current ones are mostly operating at 500V/400A for up to 200kW). It is designed from the start to charge trucks and small airplanes so it's very futureproof. Toyota's SSBs need at least 480kW average (80kWh in 10 minutes) charging speed by 2028 and it's already near the peak speed of NACS 2025 so NA models could fall behind global models in charging speed.

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I like it as a Cayman competitor, but I find it too extreme for a daily driver.
 

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  • Toyota’s global ‘Mobility for All’ vision aims to leave ‘no one behind’ with its multi-pathway approach by providing customers with accessible low and zero emission mobility solutions to meet their diverse needs
  • Toyota Motor Europe using the multi-pathway strategy and leading the transition to carbon neutrality by 2040
  • Expanded line-up of future battery electric and hydrogen fuel cell vehicles presented
  • Toyota Motor Europe’s battery electric vehicle sales to exceed 250,000 per year by 2026


  • Battery electric high-performance two-seater sportscar concept for a carbon neutral era
  • Powerful low, wide stance and sleek silhouette with distinctive lines inspired by advanced aerodynamics
  • Handling, cornering and braking enhanced by lighter, smaller components
  • Next-generation batteries, with compact dimensions and a high energy density
  • Personal ride customisation reflects a driver’s lifestyle and individual values


  • European debut of the Toyota FT-3e concept, previewing next-generation battery electric vehicle technology
  • Innovative technologies allow the car to serve as a medium for transferring energy and data
  • Developed to achieve an ideal balance between performance, accessibility and natural resources
  • Design combines advanced styling and aesthetics, with body lines and surfaces kept as simple as possible


  • European premiere of the Toyota Sport Crossover Concept, previewing a new production battery electric model
  • A new style icon for Toyota’s all-electric range, offering maximum comfort and generous space in a sleek, fastback silhouette
  • European market introduction expected in 2025
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  • Urban SUV Concept revealed today at Toyota’s Kenshiki forum in Brussels
  • Preview of a compact model in a line-up of six dedicated battery-electric vehicles, to be premiered in the first half of 2024
  • Production model will offer two battery options to suit different customer priorities for driving range and accessibility
  • Powerful SUV styling and fully flexible interior
  • Front and all-wheel drive versions to be offered
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25% of TMME sales is a lot right now for TMME, especially since they would be brand new models that need ramp up.

TMME is doing good with their hybrids now, I assume they see that falling off the cliff in certain countries where they are strong today.
 

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What, Toyota only sold 100000 EVs last year, they are definitely headed for bankruptcy LOL