Heck no, the Model 3 and Model Y actually look really nice in person and are much better in terms of build quality compared to before.I think the interior looks better than the Model 3 and Y, but then that's a relatively low bar set haha.
Still, interior design will never be a deal-breaker to me, specs, features and pricing would be more important.
I was basing my comment off visual cues, not tactile or build quality as I don't go around showrooms or service centers checking out cars I have no interest in purchasing.Heck no, the Model 3 and Model Y actually look really nice in person and are much better in terms of build quality compared to before.
This new ES is horrific and is a massive step down from what it used to be. While I expect Lexus to do a great job in ensuring high build quality standards, however in terms of styling, they made the new ES into a 80's retro-style minimalist space but it looks extremely tacky and does not belong in a Lexus interior, while the Tesla's minimalism gives me a sense of calm.
Me neither, I was telling you from my experience at an auto show, but with that said, the ES looks horrific IMHO.I was basing my comment off visual cues, not tactile or build quality as I don't go around showrooms or service centers checking out cars I have no interest in purchasing.
"... but it looks extremely tacky"I thought 80's and 90's were the heydays of automotive design?
Agree to disagree. Genesis is doing an incredible job with their interiors.To me, the ES interior doesn't look bad. Better than Mercedes or many Korean makes for sure.
It's not cohesive (seems to have too many shapes) for sure but definitely okay to me. I will never skip buying a vehicle for the interior design alone. It's always the overall package.Me neither, I was telling you from my experience at an auto show, but with that said, the ES looks horrific IMHO.
"... but it looks extremely tacky"
Agree to disagree. Genesis is doing an incredible job with their interiors.
I was going to say how much I hated how everything is embedded in the touchscreen, but I know I would get used to it after a while. My point was more about the aesthetics as well, it's much more aesthetically pleasing than the new ES.It's not cohesive (seems to have too many shapes) for sure but definitely okay to me. I will never skip buying a vehicle for the interior design alone. It's always the overall package.
With that single elongated display, haha? Count me out.
Anyone saying the Model 3 and Y interior is better or more functional and or better built (one piece will always be better built) definitely just really hates this new interior design.
The fewer the parts, the more cohesive something looks anyway.I was going to say how much I hated how everything is embedded in the touchscreen, but I know I would get used to it after a while. My point was more about the aesthetics as well, it's much more aesthetically pleasing than the new ES.
??? No, the LEXUS badge is spelled out correctly, not reversed.These are reversed sketches.
The first sketch (the rear view) seems to be an early conceptual idea; these early conceptual sketches -- this one included -- bear little resemblance to the final, real-world model. An executive sedan, which is what the ES is, cannot be expected to have wide-body fenders and ultra-wide tires.I don’t know if these have been posted already, but based on this website, these were the initial sketches of the new ES. The new ES would’ve been way more stunning/aggressive/jaw-dropping if these proportions were maintained.
The BZ7 will receive active magneride dampers on air springs. Meanwhile the new ES "flagship" will be as basic as a Camry.
No. AVS is Toyota's own name for CDC (continuous damping control) dampers. It uses solenoid valves to change the flow of damping fluid between two chambers in the damper to adjust the damping force. Magneride changes the viscosity of the magnetic fluid with a magnetic field. Magneride has much faster response and is more reliable because it has fewer moving parts, but costs more until very recently.Did Lexus ever use magnetic ride on any of their cars? Is AVS basically the same thing, or is it actually even more basic? The AVS on the LS should be decent enough, though I can't imagine what it’d be like if it had anything even close to Porsche's active ride.