Lexus UX (UX 200, UX 300h, 300e) Megathread

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spwolf said:
dunno, CT today looks stale and boring. And it is still expensive.

C-HR looks like a space ship next to it, that is why it is selling like crazy.
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Completely correct, only, the UX is not a C-HR.
 
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Agree, however the silver lining is that bigger wheels and a drop can fix this, though then it starts to look more like a hot hatch and less so a crossover.

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When we worked on the UX above the stock wheels are very tiny and not very wide. I was shocked we got to fit a 20x8.5 front and 20x10 rear on it with no issues (the wheels are Vossen FS-1 in gloss black). Tons of room. As the norm, anything lowered with larger good looking wheels improves the looks.

I have to disagree with MP here, while I am not very excited about the UX, I do feel the styling was nailed. When I inspected it I was shocked to come away with the feeling it didn't look cheap. I always felt the CT had some cues that just didn't speak premium, especially compared to its amazing looking concept.

Overall I just would love to see an AMG 45 fighter as a dark horse. We all know the UX 250 and 250h will sell with no issues.
 
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I'm still somewhat interested in the UX. I have my concerns about the power/weight ratio on it, however. It would be nice if Lexus would offer it with the 2.5L hybrid system :grinning:.
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When we worked on the UX above the stock wheels are very tiny and not very wide. I was shocked we got to fit a 20x8.5 front and 20x10 rear on it with no issues (the wheels are Vossen FS-1 in gloss black). Tons of room. As the norm, anything lowered with larger good looking wheels improves the looks.

I have to disagree with MP here, while I am not very excited about the UX, I do feel the styling was nailed. When I inspected it I was shocked to come away with the feeling it didn't look cheap. I always felt the CT had some cues that just didn't speak premium, especially compared to its amazing looking concept.

Overall I just would love to see an AMG 45 fighter as a dark horse. We all know the UX 250 and 250h will sell with no issues.
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I test drove the CT200H. It certainly didn't feel premium going up a bridge. All you could hear was engine noise. While the UX is probably not anemic, I really wish Lexus was offering an optional, higher power engine in the realm of 250hp. That could be quite fun.
 
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spwolf said:
dunno, CT today looks stale and boring. And it is still expensive.

C-HR looks like a space ship next to it, that is why it is selling like crazy.
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As a Lexus Europian Enthusiast and proud owner of a Lexus I am telling that the UX will be the biggest failure in the history of Lexus. A missed opportunity for the company to see the future.

And C-HR is selling like crazy because people who can't afford a more expensive car to stand out in the crowd are choosing a more distinct (but less classic/timeless) design that will be outdated in the next couple of years... as usual! Lexus owners are not (in any way) among them...
 
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ct200e said:
As a Lexus Europian Enthusiast and proud owner of a Lexus I am telling that the UX will be the biggest failure in the history of Lexus. A missed opportunity for the company to see the future.

And C-HR is selling like crazy because people who can't afford a more expensive car to stand out in the crowd are choosing a more distinct (but less classic/timeless) design that will be outdated in the next couple of years... as usual! Lexus owners are not (in any way) among them...
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that is certainly your opinion, which is fine... but to me CT looks old now, C-HR still looks fresh.
 
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mikeavelli said:
I have to disagree with MP here, while I am not very excited about the UX, I do feel the styling was nailed. When I inspected it I was shocked to come away with the feeling it didn't look cheap. I always felt the CT had some cues that just didn't speak premium, especially compared to its amazing looking concept.

Overall I just would love to see an AMG 45 fighter as a dark horse. We all know the UX 250 and 250h will sell with no issues.
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cool... thanks for the info. As to the F, there were rumors in Japanese mags about 1.6l (3cly?) turbo with 240hp for 2019.
 
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ct200e said:
As a Lexus Europian Enthusiast and proud owner of a Lexus I am telling that the UX will be the biggest failure in the history of Lexus. A missed opportunity for the company to see the future.
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Thats a bold prediction, and most likely wrong. This segment is the biggest growing one at the moment, and I think, and so does Lexus, that this could well become the best selling Lexus ever.
 
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S10 said:
Thats a bold prediction, and most likely wrong. This segment is the biggest growing one at the moment, and I think, and so does Lexus, that this could well become the best selling Lexus ever.
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i doubt it will become best selling, because it is going to have lower sales in USA due to the nature/size of it.... but good selling, yes.
 
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ct200e said:
As a Lexus Europian Enthusiast and proud owner of a Lexus I am telling that the UX will be the biggest failure in the history of Lexus. A missed opportunity for the company to see the future.
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Why a failure or missed opportunity? I don't see any good reason, frankly... :no_mouth:
 
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Joe said:
Why a failure or missed opportunity? I don't see any good reason, frankly... :no_mouth:
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he doesnt like a design and wants an EV... both valid subjective opinions.

But Toyota has hit a huge run with relatively expensive C-HR vs competition and it will do the same with UX, imho. As long as it looks good in real life. C-HR also does not look great in 2D, where you dont see the stance, but in real life, I am still turning around when I see them in its 2nd year on the market, and I see more C-HR than Yaris or Auris, let alone any other Toyota's.
 
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The design tightens up a lot on the Vossen-ized version, and I think the fact that it looks like a hot hatch then is at least partially intentional. That way the same car can be both a mini-CUV and a new CT at the same time depending on if you lower it.
 
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Ian Schmidt said:
The design tightens up a lot on the Vossen-ized version, and I think the fact that it looks like a hot hatch then is at least partially intentional. That way the same car can be both a mini-CUV and a new CT at the same time depending on if you lower it.
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Sounds like Infiniti's game plan with the Q30/QX30, which plays the warm hatch role with the lowered-suspension, no-cladding Sport models and the pseudo-CUV role with the higher-riding, cladding-bedecked "regular/X" models.
 
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Joaquin Ruhi said:
Sounds like Infiniti's game plan with the Q30/QX30, which plays the warm hatch role with the lowered-suspension, no-cladding Sport models and the pseudo-CUV role with the higher-riding, cladding-bedecked "regular/X" models.
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Right. I think Lexus arguably missed a step in terms of just making the F Sport version the lowered-on-dubs no-cladding "new CT", but I imagine the necessary lowering springs will be easily available from the usual suspects.
 
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Joaquin Ruhi said:
Sounds like Infiniti's game plan with the Q30/QX30, which plays the warm hatch role with the lowered-suspension, no-cladding Sport models and the pseudo-CUV role with the higher-riding, cladding-bedecked "regular/X" models.
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their plan was complete failure though... so i dont think that is what Lexus will do.
 
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Joaquin Ruhi said:
Sounds like Infiniti's game plan with the Q30/QX30, which plays the warm hatch role with the lowered-suspension, no-cladding Sport models and the pseudo-CUV role with the higher-riding, cladding-bedecked "regular/X" models.
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The QX30 even in sport is still a raised CUV. Its the weirdest thing. What is alarming is sales are off about 50-60% this year, only its second in existence. Not sure if this is an Infiniti issue or the vehicle/market itself. I need to see what the GLA is doing.
 
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