5th Generation (2018+) Lexus LS 500 & LS 500h Megathread

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Still hard to believe it’s gone. 2025 been something else

Why stop making sedan c'mon...they could develop a new engine and a new RWD platform and use it across multiple models — LS SUV, LS coupe, LS sedan whatever. I mean sure, fewer people are buying sedans these days, but with platform sharing they could offset the R&D costs using profits from the SUVs, right?

No sedan, no LS.
 

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I recently started having real needs for second row comfort and none of our cars fit the job. How does LS500 do as a chauffeur car? LS with luxury/executive package are almost non-existent in US so there are only normal 5-seat versions available. LS500 depreciate surprisingly fast so most 2021-2023 cars are very cheap. I've thought of getting a GX460. Would the extra space and SUV seating position make up for its unsophisticated chassis (compared to the LS of course)? I plan to keep it long term so I won't be getting a S-class or 7 series.
 

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I recently started having real needs for second row comfort and none of our cars fit the job. How does LS500 do as a chauffeur car? LS with luxury/executive package are almost non-existent in US so there are only normal 5-seat versions available. LS500 depreciate surprisingly fast so most 2021-2023 cars are very cheap. I've thought of getting a GX460. Would the extra space and SUV seating position make up for its unsophisticated chassis (compared to the LS of course)? I plan to keep it long term so I won't be getting a S-class or 7 series.

If you want something quantifiable… it’s hard to put numbers to comfort, but compared to a GS the difference is very obvious. On rough roads, the LS basically cuts down the harshness by like 20–30%.

In daily driving terms:
  • On a GS, you still feel the little road chatter.
  • On an LS, those tiny vibrations pretty much disappear.
  • A big bump that would feel like a real “thud” in the GS turns into just a normal soft “dong” in the LS.
Body roll is more noticeable than the GS, for sure, but that’s just part of how the LS is tuned. These are just the differences I consistently feel between the two.

But that said - if you’re expecting that super-floaty “couch on wheels / land yacht” softness like old-school American luxury cars… this generation LS is not like that (SG’s comment about it being a Lincoln Town Car felt a bit exaggerated, but not entirely wrong), and honestly will never be that. It’s more of a supportive softness, not a marshmallow. But definitely softer than GS for sure.

For context, I’m comparing a GS with AVS to an LS (post 2021) with the air-suspension AVS setup.
 
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That's either manufacturer agenda or fan's coping excuse why LS is getting canceled. No matter what that's not the real truth. More relevant truth is Toyota didn't want to sell LS and GS so they made them not to sell well.

At the time when 4LS went to its three refresh phases there was no major market shift in automotive industry nor tier 1 flagship market. Even if you can call turbocharging V6/V8 and infotainment advancements as major automotive shift it's not something that Toyota couldn't adjust to. They just didn't want to. After all Toyota was leading the automotive real big shift with their hybrids. They gave up the flagship marketshare for the reasons only known to them. Well they are building Century GT limo from the ground up, I don't know how that makes sense but investing into well established proper 5th and 6th generation flagship sedan 15 years ago didn't make sense. Century is a pipedream at this stage much like how Lexus was 40 years back, it could work but at the same time it can misfire.
 
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how that makes sense
In a recent interview Akio says he told them the Century is an "honorary chairmans car".

All he says he told them was effectively "build a century *I* would want to drive" and his team went and did all the work.

Then the guy starts taking credit for everything. You know how actually disturbed, how much of a malignant narcissist you have to be to do that? He starts going off about japanese nationalism, yada yada.

The dude is f****** demented. He is a japanese Musk.

Decaying an entire luxury division because your equipment doesnt work you need it all to be about you and your name is wild.
 

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What Stephen Elop did to Nokia is also fine read. Many parallels there. Except that it turned out he was an imposter CEO so Microsoft could snatch Nokia.