infotainment sure, but interior? Nah.
Once you sit in LS, it is nice. LC is even nicer.
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infotainment sure, but interior? Nah.
Once you sit in LS, it is nice. LC is even nicer.
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It may be MB's attempt to reclaim the S-Class' title as King of the Hill.Related. The S-Class will start at 110k, a huge 15k leap over the last gen.
Base for Base it starts around 34k more than a LS.
2021 Mercedes S-Class Pricing Detailed, Jumps by $15,000+
The "cheapest" 2021 S-Class—that's the S500 4Matic—is now a $100,000 car after Mercedes ups the starting prices for the model range.www.motortrend.com
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Very true - transmission is a big change. The engine was not.
The replacement of the infotainment screen looks like a rush-job to me, which makes me believe that the moving of the screen closer to the driver was a last-minute effort. If the replacement of the screen was not originally planned for when work on the face-lift started soon after this model was first introduced back in 2017, the last minute change meant that there was no time left for a change to the dashboard before the introduction of the face-lift.
Better designed and better quality are two different things. Before facelift the LS interior was perfection. After facelift the elegance is completely destroyed.
Of course design wise the NX would benefit from better infotainment integration.
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Never lost the crown IMO
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I really like TheTopher's videos, find him very fair and want to note he is a Lexus fan as he owns a GX 460. His LS review was mixed: the 2021 car is smoother and the touch screen is an improvement, but overall it is still far behind the competition with regard to tech and features.
He mentioned it would be worth spending more money and getting an S class, or a G90 for the same.
Unfortunately, it does not seem like the transmission/throttle delay issue has been fixed with the 2021 refresh.
i dont understand - top mounted touchscreens are definitely more than a trend, 2020 LS and LC both look outdated.
What I meant to say is that MB does not want to be seen as having lost the crown.
It's the implementation, how it's done, clearly looks like an afterthought.
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I mean this all do. Hell even brand new interiors it looks like an afterthought. It is what it is.
Not gonna lie, even the Genesis is miles ahead in terms of graphic and implementation (although not the best IMO)
Take a look at the Panamera or Continental GT's (3rd gen) interior...those touchscreens implementation are examples of how it's done right from the get go
Take a look at the Panamera or Continental GT's (3rd gen) interior...those touchscreens implementation are examples of how it's done right from the get go
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I don't want carmakers working on "graphics and implementation", I want them working on driving. Just make a screen that's blank until you hook up CarPlay/Android Auto instead of making Wal-Mart Knockoff Android like the Genesis picture above.
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Look guys, people bitched about wanting a touch screen and Lexus responded. I surely hope no one thought an all new interior was coming.
I agree pre MMC the LS interior flowed as well as anything ive ever seen.
I agree pre MMC the LS interior flowed as well as anything ive ever seen.
I guess I'm one of very few that prefers the Lexus trackpad over touchscreen. Sure it could have been improved million times since it's made the debut and only Toyoda knows why they didn't do anything about it and I guess everyone of us here has some great input how to improve it. Oh well.
There is just so much on screen functionality in today's infotainment systems and that is the sole reason why everyone is reverting back to touchscreens. There is no way you can do all that with rotary unless you go few layers deep. But the question is not do you really need all that functionality cause sure you might find it useful, question is how not to slap all of it on the screen and make a mess out of the interface. There has to be a way to make these features a lot more intuitive without digging through menus or without having it all laid out on the screen.
There is just so much on screen functionality in today's infotainment systems and that is the sole reason why everyone is reverting back to touchscreens. There is no way you can do all that with rotary unless you go few layers deep. But the question is not do you really need all that functionality cause sure you might find it useful, question is how not to slap all of it on the screen and make a mess out of the interface. There has to be a way to make these features a lot more intuitive without digging through menus or without having it all laid out on the screen.
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I completely agree. That was my exact comment on the new S-Class - Mercedes have spent hundreds of hours refining and developing all of their own MBUX UI when literally the first thing I'd want to do is plug in my phone for CarPlay's ability for satellite view live maps.
Literally give me a high-resolution state of the art display nicely implemented in the design and flawless CarPlay/Android Auto and I'm happy!
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The touchpad is much, much better than the joystick that preceded it. I don't mind it except when entering addresses into the nav, and since I got the CarPlay upgrade on my LS500 I haven't done that once.