4th Generation 2024 Toyota Tacoma Thread
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Kai lists the flaws that make each new TNGA-F product less appealing for technical offroading:
Tundra: too on-road focused, sacrificed off-road capabilities. Questionable engine reliability.
Tacoma: wheelbase is too long on most trims other than the most basic ones.
GX: front overhang too long due to E-KDSS packaging.
J250 LCP: too much weight reduction by using thinner parts. Questionable durability under heavy stress.
It really makes me wonder how well the new light-duty platform could achieve its intended durability target. The J250 is the same size as J200 but almost 500kg lighter and also 300kg lighter than the J300. Their chief engineer did say they try to save weight wherever possible without sacrificing durability, but we don't know how true it is.
Tundra: too on-road focused, sacrificed off-road capabilities. Questionable engine reliability.
Tacoma: wheelbase is too long on most trims other than the most basic ones.
GX: front overhang too long due to E-KDSS packaging.
J250 LCP: too much weight reduction by using thinner parts. Questionable durability under heavy stress.
It really makes me wonder how well the new light-duty platform could achieve its intended durability target. The J250 is the same size as J200 but almost 500kg lighter and also 300kg lighter than the J300. Their chief engineer did say they try to save weight wherever possible without sacrificing durability, but we don't know how true it is.
What has the durability target been traditionally?
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I believe the 2024+ Tacoma Limited is the first Tacoma to offer full-time 4WD.
The 4Runner has offered full-time 4WD on some models since the introduction of the 4th gen 4Runner in 2003. Some 3rd and 4th gen 4Runners had a goofy multi-mode transfer case that was part-time 4x4 but also had a locking center differential. It could be used as a full-time 4WD with the center diff unlocked. When the 5th gen 4Runner was introduced in 2010, Toyota went back to using part-time 4x4 on everything except the Limited, which used full-time 4WD with a lockable center diff.
The 6th gen 4Runner iForce Max Limited/Platinum and LC250 drivetrains are nearly identical as far as I can tell. The LC250 has a locking rear differential, which is only available on the 4Runner TRD Offroad, Pro, and Trailhunter (none of which have full-time 4WD). The rear differential might be a different size too, but I'm not 100% sure on that. I know the GX550 has a larger rear diff than the LC250 (stupid), but I don't know which diff the 4Runner uses or if the 4Runner iforce max has a larger diff than the non-hybrid models. I know the Tacoma has two different size rear diffs (hybrid and manual trans get the larger diff).
I'd like to see the 4Runner Limited and/or Platinum offer a rear locker as an option. Full-time 4WD plus a locker would be a nice drivetrain in areas that get a lot of snow.
The fact the LC250 and 4Runner Limited/Platinum have nearly an identical drivetrain is why I wished Toyota offered the 350hp version of the V35 (as bad as it is) in the LC250. Then they could offer the higher output ~400hp V35 in the GX. That would give a nice progression of engine options from the 4Runner to the LX. 4Runner non-hybrid (278hp), 4Runner hybrid (326hp), LC250 (350hp), GX550 (400hp), Sequoia (437hp), and LX700h (457hp).