2nd Generation Toyota 86 and Subaru BRZ Thread

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Thanks for this info
So we may see a batch of Subaru cars with Toyota hybrid synergy as Suzuki
 
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Subaru U.S. Media Center - ALL-NEW 2022 SUBARU BRZ MAKES GLOBAL DEBUT

The all-new, rear-wheel drive 2022 Subaru BRZ sports car made its Global Debut today at the Thermal Club Raceway in Thermal, CA. Subaru developed the all-new BRZ with the same fundamentals of sports car design that it used to create the original: low vehicle weight, an ultra-low center of...
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I truly like this car. Almost 230 horsepower and 186 lb-ft of torque with only a 17 lb weight gain in the manual model? Impressive.

Also take note of this. Peak torque is delivered at 3700 RPM, while the old one was at 6400 RPM. There should be a way smaller, if not non-existent torque dip now. The interior looks solid as well. The only thing that's a massive put off is that fat bezel around the infotainment screen.
 
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Gecko said:
As usual with any new model reveal, current owners fall on a scale of skeptical to salty 😂

The car is kick ass. I want one.
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The VW guys seem to be more positive. 🤣

VWVortex.com - Next Generation 2022 Subaru BRZ Revealed

https://media.subaru.com/pressrelease/1657/1/brz-november-18th-release https://s.aolcdn.com/os/ab/_cms/2020/11/17124824/22MY-BRZ-1.jpg https://s.aolcdn.com/os/ab/_cms/2020/11/17125653/22MY-BRZ-2.jpg https://s.aolcdn.com/os/ab/_cms/2020/11/17124827/22MY-BRZ-3.jpg...
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F1 Silver Arrows said:
I truly like this car. Almost 230 horsepower and 186 lb-ft of torque with only a 17 lb weight gain in the manual model? Impressive.

Also take note of this. Peak torque is delivered at 3700 RPM, while the old one was at 6400 RPM. There should be a way smaller, if not non-existent torque dip now. The interior looks solid as well. The only thing that's a massive put off is that fat bezel around the infotainment screen.
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This is how the power and torque curves look like, really broad and flat unlike the FA20, it's powerband seems even wider than the 2.0L in the ND2 MX-5 which is awesome!

Honestly the more I look into the FA engine family, the more I feel like the FA20 whether it's the NA or the turbo is just a test bed for the FA24, Prime Motoring was able to push an almost stock FA24(they threw in camshafts from the WRX) to power levels so high that the FA20 will need to be fully rebuild with upgraded rods, pistons, head studs and valve springs just to reach that power level while producing a lot less low end and mid range torque.
 

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The problem with gen1 86/BRZ is not power to weight ratio but that very hard to use torque band. I expect the FA24 to have way more mid-range torque than the FA20.

Also funny to see the press release say the BRZ does not sacrifice comfort, when it is the most uncomfortable road legal car that's not a track special. The MX-5 feels much more livable.
 
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I just can't figure it out: does the new BRZ have the a lower height door window or is it the same window as old BRZ? The new one does give an impression of narrower window/higher belt line, but I am not sure if it really is.


Can't decide if I like or not. The interior though is a clear and satisfactory upgrade, while remaining lightweight.
 
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Sitting all these days when I have time, looking at old and new BRZ. Can't decide stylingwise which I like better, and what doesn't make the new BRZ perfect.

The good thing in any case is that the new one is like the old, not worse, which also means the old one is so great, that there is not much if anything to improve.
 
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