I saw a meme a few months ago about how Trump hates everyone but the gays, so choosing Pence allowed him to complete his perfect paradigm of hatred. It made me chuckle because at least at a superficial level, it seems true.
I'm gay, so LGBT issues are important to me personally. I don't think Republicans stand a chance of winning another presidential election until they stop waging war on social issues - it's long gone now.
I also had this theory stemming from the 2008 election that we were starting to see the Republican party fracture and fall apart, and 2012 and 2016 have pretty much proven that to be true. I think it's part of the shift that led us to Trump as the nominee. Put simply, there are too many competing interests under the "Republican" label - evangelicals, moderates, tea party, libertarians, right-leaning independents, etc. These groups don't have enough in common to unite under the same voting bloc, and they tend to not show up when their candidate doesn't become the nominee. We started to see it in 2008, for sure in 2012, and then that led to this fracture and general anger that gave us Donald Trump.
Just my .02.
IT'S ELECTION DAY, YA'LL. One way or another, this is finally about to be over.
Anyone want to make a projection?
Looks like it's going to be hard for Hillary to lose it... but I won't say it can't happen.
I can't remember where I read this quote recently: "I'd rather have a crook flying the plane than an idiot who doesn't know how ..." hmmm
It's over. Hillary is conceding.
anyone apply yet?
True, but both sides went way over the line in how they conducted themselves and spoke....not to mention the MSM's relentless attacks on Trump (and some pretty significant ones against Hillary, too). Probably all of them, if they were in this forum, would have been tossed out the very first day for violating posting-standards.Brooks2IS said:Congratulations to both sides on hard fought campaigns.
Trump Is What Happens When You Nominate A Cheater and Live In An Echo Chamber—Please Learn From This
The Media Lied To Us About EVERYTHING
If you’ve been following my Twitter or Facebook account during this 2016 election you probably would have thought I was a Trump supporter. However, I am a former registered Democrat, a Bernie supporter, and consider myself a progressive libertarian. This was the first election I ended up voting 3rd party, but my second choice was Trump. I simply could not vote for Hillary Clinton because of her mishandling of classified information, and stealing the nomination from the people’s choice Bernie Sanders.
Hillary never should have been nominated in the first place. The first clue was when she was under FBI investigation, and the second clue was when she rigged the primary elections.
In an attempt to inform my friends, family, and followers I posted dozens if not hundreds of Wikileaks e-mails, and tweeted alt-right news just as much as I did liberal news. I did this because most of my followers are liberals, and I realized they were all living in an echo chamber on social media where they were not being exposed to differing opinions or news. I was mostly rejected by liberals for doing this, they didn’t understand why I was sharing things that made them uncomfortable, but now they know why. Ironically, I got far more support from Trump supporters for trying to tell Democrats the truth. I wasn’t expecting that.
I took it upon myself to understand Trump, and his supporters. What I found was millions of great Americans who had been disenfranchised, normal people like you and I, who did not recover from the Great Recession. They’re pissed off about Obama Care, endless wars, trade deals that have killed jobs, higher taxes, a rigged economy–and, they are not wrong.
Had Democrats taken the concerns of average American seriously, especially the concerns of Millennials, they would have quickly realized Hillary Clinton was not the right nominee for the Democratic party in 2016.
He should've lost honestly (I couldn't vote for either of them), but the "rural, non-college educated whites" made a big difference.I gave my prediction months ago on L.E., predicting Trump would lose based on his hate-based platform and poor business history.
He should've lost honestly (I couldn't vote for either of them), but the "rural, non-college educated whites" made a big difference.
He should've lost honestly (I couldn't vote for either of them), but the "rural, non-college educated whites" made a big difference.
Brooks2IS said:So the media continues to preach, but I don't buy it. You can't win that many votes or states just off of a white uneducated voter base. Trump's voters were far more diversified than that.
Donald Trump won 12 of the states that build light vehicles, including a slim victory in Michigan, the nation’s largest producer. Hillary Clinton won two: Illinois and California.
State 2016 vehicle production* Winner Trump vote by % ** Clinton vote by %
Michigan 1,857,357 Trump (R) 47.62 47.31
Ohio 1,206,171 Trump 52.05 43.51
Indiana 1,027,335 Trump 57.22 37.86
Kentucky 1,001,211 Trump 62.54 32.69
Alabama 813,803 Trump 62.86 34.58
Tennessee 604,304 Trump 61.07 34.89
Missouri 573,114 Trump 57.14 38.01
Illinois 534,838 Clinton (D) 39.4 55.42
Texas 456,181 Trump 52.55 43.47
Mississippi 414,583 Trump 58.24 39.81
South Carolina 343,696 Trump 55.63 39.93
Georgia 285,960 Trump 51.33 45.57
Kansas 136,385 Trump 57.23 36.12
California 58,935 Clinton 33.26 61.45
So the media continues to preach, but I don't buy it. You can't win that many votes or states just off of a white uneducated voter base. Trump's voters were far more diversified than that.