16th Generation Toyota Crown (Sedan, Cross, Sport, Estate/Signia)

What do you think it is?

  • Lexus GS

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  • Toyota Crown

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Demetrius

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I've been looking but couldn't find a concrete answer. Maybe someone else knows: is the Crown Signia launching with the 5th gen THS 2.5 powertrain? My gut tells me no, but I want to be sure.

I know the MY25 Camry is the debut for the engine and the Crown should be out later in summer following the Camry but preliminary specs for the Crown make me think its still the 4th Gen from the Sienna/Highlander.
 

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I've been looking but couldn't find a concrete answer. Maybe someone else knows: is the Crown Signia launching with the 5th gen THS 2.5 powertrain? My gut tells me no, but I want to be sure.

I know the MY25 Camry is the debut for the engine and the Crown should be out later in summer following the Camry but preliminary specs for the Crown make me think its still the 4th Gen from the Sienna/Highlander.
I'd guess that it is the 4th gen. The numbers are in line with the crown crossover and Venza that it replaced. The Crown Signia has a tow rating of 2700lbs. I haven't seen any 5th gen models get a tow rating yet except for Corolla Cross and it is down at 1500lbs.
 

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I think that a Toyota at Lexus prices will be a hard sell (and here in Canada, only the Limited trim will be on sale, so no cheaper version available). I like the idea of a wagon but for the same price as a Lexus ES Hybrid, I think I would go for the ES.
 

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It’s interesting to see that none of these have tinted windows. One of the reviewers thought maybe this was due to it being legally classified as a wagon, but no confirmation on that. It’s interesting nonetheless.

My only real complaint is the lack of an opening sunroof. Toyota seems to be moving towards solid pano roofs, but I’d definitely prefer a dual pane one that opens.
 

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It’s interesting to see that none of these have tinted windows. One of the reviewers thought maybe this was due to it being legally classified as a wagon, but no confirmation on that. It’s interesting nonetheless.

My only real complaint is the lack of an opening sunroof. Toyota seems to be moving towards solid pano roofs, but I’d definitely prefer a dual pane one that opens.
If the fixed moonroof results in a bigger window, I'm OK with that tradeoff.
 

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As a total package, I love this thing. It's essentially the perfect size, lots of cargo and passenger room, 240hp, 39MPG, great design, and the interior is Lexus-like quality.

Between the Grand Highlander and the Crown Signia, I'm interested to see what the future for the (regular) Highlander looks like. It wouldn't surprise me if the next-gen Highlander and Grand Highlander just become "Highlander" in name and Grand Highlander in size as one model. I once saw Toyota research showing that Highlander buyers are generally empty nesters who just want the extra row and space for when they need it. I wonder if those bases are now covered now between Crown Signia and GH..., or if there's still room for the Highlander between them?
 
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As a total package, I love this thing. It's essentially the perfect size, lots of cargo and passenger room, 240hp, 39MPG, great design, and the interior is Lexus-like quality.
This thing needs the Hybrid MAX engine IMHO for it to really deserve the Crown name. It needs that powertrain.
Between the Grand Highlander and the Crown Signia, I'm interested to see what the future for the (regular) Highlander looks like. It wouldn't surprise me if the next-gen Highlander and Grand Highlander just become "Highlander" in name and Grand Highlander in size as one model. I once saw Toyota research showing that Highlander buyers are generally empty nesters who just want the extra row and space for when they need it. I wonder if those bases are now covered now between Crown Signia and GH..., or if there's still room for the Highlander between them?
I think Toyota can easily make room for the Highlander as all Toyota models sell pretty well right now. I don't see a reason for Toyota to phase out the Highlander... maybe ever.

If you position the Crown Signia as a genuine wagon, then you don't have to worry about it and the Highlander cannibalizing each other.
 

Demetrius

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As a total package, I love this thing. It's essentially the perfect size, lots of cargo and passenger room, 240hp, 39MPG, great design, and the interior is Lexus-like quality.

Between the Grand Highlander and the Crown Signia, I'm interested to see what the future for the (regular) Highlander looks like. It wouldn't surprise me if the next-gen Highlander and Grand Highlander just become "Highlander" in name and Grand Highlander in size as one model. I once saw Toyota research showing that Highlander buyers are generally empty nesters who just want the extra row and space for when they need it. I wonder if those bases are now covered now between Crown Signia and GH..., or if there's still room for the Highlander between them?
It's really a great package. I am buying one to replace my CT200h + 2nd gen Sequoia. As soon as my local dealer gets one next month, I'm there to look at it. Leaning towards Bronze 👀
 

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As a total package, I love this thing. It's essentially the perfect size, lots of cargo and passenger room, 240hp, 39MPG, great design, and the interior is Lexus-like quality.

Between the Grand Highlander and the Crown Signia, I'm interested to see what the future for the (regular) Highlander looks like. It wouldn't surprise me if the next-gen Highlander and Grand Highlander just become "Highlander" in name and Grand Highlander in size as one model. I once saw Toyota research showing that Highlander buyers are generally empty nesters who just want the extra row and space for when they need it. I wonder if those bases are now covered now between Crown Signia and GH..., or if there's still room for the Highlander between them?
The regular Highlander is still needed for international markets where people don't need something as big as a GH. The NA market could be fine without it.
 

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Its a great vehicle, but is this going after subie buyers who want a more luxo subie as some of the reviews are hinting at?

In the states i feel buyers are confused as to what to buy when walking into a dealership these days.

Rav4 vs Venza, and then the later bowed out,

Highlander vs GH vs now this.

4R vs LC vs Sequoia vs GH and as of now the GH is top dawg.