New Lexus LC F Rendering Brings Possible Track Edition to Mind

Posted by Kevin on May 14th, 2019

Best Car has new predictions for the eagerly-awaited Lexus LC F, with the Japanese magazine claiming the high-performance coupe will be released in 2021 with 660 horsepower.

Accompanying this rumor is the above rendering, which is said to be based on insider information. There are plenty of carbon fiber elements meant to reduce weight, but the overall look is ludicrous at first glance. How close could this be to an actual production model?

It all comes down to the newly released RC F Track Edition:

Lexus RC F Track Edition

Put side-by-side, does the Best Car LC F rendering really look out of place? An even better question — what’s to stop the eventual LC F from getting a similar Track Edition?

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krew
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Spanish website Motor.es peeks into a possible future.
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maiaramdan
looks so normal to me
Joaquin Ruhi
Looks great just like they rendered it, but I agree with Krew's comment that a production LC F should probably have a more distinct and aggressive front end versus the regular LC.

Also interesting are some of the comments in the Motor.es article accompanying the renderings. They expect the regular LC and LCh to go on sale in Spain in May 2017 (echoing Motor Trend's recent prediction for its sales debut in the U.S.), and suggest that the LC F will have a torque vectoring differential (not sure if this has been confirmed for the "regular" LC and LCh as well). They waver on what engine will power the LC F, whether it will be a tweaked (to 500 hp) version of the LC 500 V8 or (more likely, they reckon) a twin turbo version producing 550-600 hp.

Finally, they predict a 2019 (calendar year, presumably) arrival for the LC F.
meth.ix
Butterzai
(look at the price of the R8 v10)
Yes but an LC F can perform better with a new Twin-Turbo V8 while also costing less.
meth.ix
The exhaust tips from the GS F don't work on this car. Only works on sedans. For coupes use the RC F tips.
Lexus Cohen
Whatever they decide to do with the LC F has to be something out of this world! They are aware of what the competition has to offer so I'm expecting a killer coupe wearing the F badge!

Engineering Amazing!
Faisal Sheikh
Adrian de Leon
Is nobody thinking that maybe the engine in the LFA project X could be used in the LC F?
The 5.3 Liter V10 race motor was derived from the LFA 4.8 Liter V10 (stroked version). It would be an awesome dream to have this engine in a production Lexus, but realistically the engine is too exotic and costs too much. A standard LFA engine has an MSRP tag of $156,000 because of the exotic and bespoke construction (and that it is also tested in F1 facility). I believe the LCF would be no more expensive than $175,000 - $190,000. That V10 masterpiece would probably never be seen in a production Lexus.
Lexus Cohen
Faisal Sheikh
The 5.3 Liter V10 race motor was derived from the LFA 4.8 Liter V10 (stroked version). It would be an awesome dream to have this engine in a production Lexus, but realistically the engine is too exotic and costs too much. A standard LFA engine has an MSRP tag of $156,000 because of the exotic and bespoke construction (and that it is also tested in F1 facility). I believe the LCF would be no more expensive than $175,000 - $190,000. That V10 masterpiece would probably never be seen in a production Lexus.
Correct me if I am wrong, I remember reading years ago that the LFA engine has a price tag of $75,000.
Faisal Sheikh
Lexus Cohen
Correct me if I am wrong, I remember reading years ago that the LFA engine has a price tag of $75,000.
Nope. As stated, $156,000 MSRP for the 4.8 Liter V10. Confirmed. Forgot to add, the 5.3 Liter V10 can easily produce 630 - 640 HP completely N/A even if it retains the 117 HP/Liter the LFA V10 produces.
Daniel Guyton
BEGINNING TO GET TOO EXPENSIVE AND OUT OF REACH OF NORMAL PEOPLE....
krew
Joaquin Ruhi
Finally, they predict a 2019 (calendar year, presumably) arrival for the LC F.
I passed over this because it was covered back in July from an Automobile Magazine story -- nice to see a second outlet confirming the timing, though they may be pulling it from the same location.

Lexus Cohen
Correct me if I am wrong, I remember reading years ago that the LFA engine has a price tag of $75,000.
Faisal Sheikh
Nope. As stated, $156,000 MSRP for the 4.8 Liter V10. Confirmed. Forgot to add, the 5.3 Liter V10 can easily produce 630 - 640 HP completely N/A even if it retains the 117 HP/Liter the LFA V10 produces.
I was the one who said the LFA engine was $75,000, but that was ballparked by a Lexus executive way back in 2012. I never confirmed or researched past that -- sounds like @Faisal Sheikh knows what he's talking about, I would be interested to see the source.
krew
Daniel Guyton
BEGINNING TO GET TOO EXPENSIVE AND OUT OF REACH OF NORMAL PEOPLE....
Not sure what you mean by normal people, but we are talking about high performance coupe with likely more than 600 horsepower -- seems like a small target market, TBH.
Faisal Sheikh
krew
I was the one who said the LFA engine was $75,000, but that was ballparked by a Lexus executive way back in 2012. I never confirmed or researched past that -- sounds like @Faisal Sheikh knows what he's talking about, I would be interested to see the source.

It was posted by an LFA owner on clublexus (I believe, gengar) who found out the retail on the engine from Lexus parts.
krew
Faisal Sheikh
It was posted by an LFA owner on clublexus (I believe, gengar) who found out the retail on the engine from Lexus parts.
Well, if $75k seemed unlikely, then $156k is essentially impossible. I'm betting we never see that engine in another Lexus.
meth.ix
krew
Well, if $75k seemed unlikely, then $156k is essentially impossible. I'm betting we never see that engine in another Lexus.
The price tag shouldn't be much of a problem even with the V10. But this is Lexus. Everyone will criticize it for being so expensive when the S65 would be around the same price. But that's okay for the Germans to do it because they are always the best!
mikeavelli
Guys you don't just take an engine and slam it in a car, the LFA V-10 was created specifically for the LFA. It is DNA of the LFA.

They would never harm the LFA by putting that engine (now old fyi) and putting it into something else. That is a supercar engine, one of the greatest ever made.
krew
krew [​IMG]

More power, more performance, coming to the new coupe.
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James
About damn time! Now LSF, ISF, and NXF!! And a convertible! Lexus needs a convertible!
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James
About damn time! Now LSF, ISF, and NXF!! And a convertible! Lexus needs a convertible!
I dont understand why they have not turned the LF-C2 into the RC Convertible. My guess is that they're waiting for the update for the RC since the concept shows slightly different styling in the rear and front bumper. Ive seen so many people that want a convertible, and since Lexus offers no brand-new one, they go to BMW, Mercedes, etc. Also, I agree an NXF would be hot! or an RXF! and as always, BRING BACK THE ISF.
They also need to redo the GSF. I can't be the only one who is slightly disappointed with the rushed performance of the GSF.
B
i wish to see LC F with 500-600 Horsepower from Twin Turbo V6 (or V8)

or V6 with Twin Turbo Hybrid which is make around 550+ HP (LS500 Engine tuning up with electric motor)

Hybrid to eliminate Turbo Lag with new battery technology

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Or Hi revving V10 NA with great noise :laughing:
Lexus Cohen
V10? Will never happen! TT V8? More likely to happen!
DOC4Lex
Aww Man this is good news for the LC F model, i hope Lexus can start testing a mule at the Nurburgring in the next coming months
GSCT
I will most likely never drive one, but...yay!
meth.ix
Regular LC F should have around 550 hp to compete with S 63 Coupe and M6.

LC F higher performance model (Nurburgring Edition, Performance Pack, etc.) that raises horsepower to 600+ to compete with S 65.

Thats the ideal LC F for me.
mikeavelli
I think we all know this is a secret that really isn't one lol....

Power figures will be :)
M
I have a strange feeling that total power is going to be over 600HP.

Not through Twin Turbos alone but because I have a feeling that they will use Hybrid Energy as well.

That to me would be the smartest thing they can do.

For now, this should be the new direction for F performance vehicles. Use everything you can to produce the power you need. It used to be the V8s alone which was cool but it should be TT V8s with the addition of an electric motor.
Faisal Sheikh
Hybrid powertrain is fine as long as they don't put that garbage CVT with it. Not sure why Lexus keeps trying to push CVT as a performance oriented transmission when it never has and never will become one.

Mohammed Taha
I have a strange feeling that total power is going to be over 600HP.

Not through Twin Turbos alone but because I have a feeling that they will use Hybrid Energy as well.

That to me would be the smartest thing they can do.

For now, this should be the new direction for F performance vehicles. Use everything you can to produce the power you need. It used to be the V8s alone which was cool but it should be TT V8s with the addition of an electric motor.
Y
Faisal Sheikh
Hybrid powertrain is fine as long as they don't put that garbage CVT with it. Not sure why Lexus keeps trying to push CVT as a performance oriented transmission when it never has and never will become one.
The 4AT in the LC500h actually works wonders to remedy the rubber band feel of the eCVT.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/lexus/lc/97970/new-lexus-lc-500h-2017-review

"Lexus calls it a multi-stage shift device, but does it work? Surprisingly, perhaps, yes it does. Where you used to floor the throttle and wince as the engine revs rise and stay there, the four-speed box will change down a whole gear (that means going from ninth to sixth on the ten-speed scale) and move through the gears much the same way as a traditional auto would. It even offers slightly slicker changes.

There’s still a slight hold of the revs before a ‘ratio’ is swapped, but along with a lovely engine note that’s enhanced and fed into the cabin mechanically rather than electronically. It adds to the enjoyment of the car – especially if you get a kick out of knowing how the tech is working under the skin."
C
Krew. I'm with you on a 2020 MY since Lexus has historically released past new models almost 2 years after trademark.

As for power, IS/RC F models have added at least 110-161 over their lesser versions so I'm expecting minimum 600 hp on an LC F.
Faisal Sheikh
Well all of the reviews seem to be quite poor of the CVT 4 speed. The rubber band effect is still there. Also, they say the engine speed is poorly matched to the gears and still has the effect of not dropping properly when you shift to the next gear.

ydooby
The 4AT in the LC500h actually works wonders to remedy the rubber band feel of the eCVT.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/lexus/lc/97970/new-lexus-lc-500h-2017-review

"Lexus calls it a multi-stage shift device, but does it work? Surprisingly, perhaps, yes it does. Where you used to floor the throttle and wince as the engine revs rise and stay there, the four-speed box will change down a whole gear (that means going from ninth to sixth on the ten-speed scale) and move through the gears much the same way as a traditional auto would. It even offers slightly slicker changes.

There’s still a slight hold of the revs before a ‘ratio’ is swapped, but along with a lovely engine note that’s enhanced and fed into the cabin mechanically rather than electronically. It adds to the enjoyment of the car – especially if you get a kick out of knowing how the tech is working under the skin."

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