Lexus LC F High-Performance Coupe Arriving Later This Year?

All the scoops and air intake/outlet and the bare carbon fibre nonsense totally ruins what is the LC design language. They should really instead try to hide that it's a performance version, and I suspect they actually will. They should also hybridize it, use electricity to benefit performance sort of like the Porsche 918 spider.

my loaded LC was $106k, it seems to me that the F versions of other models run about $20 - 25 k more than the standard. So, my guess would be that the LC F would be about $125 - 130 K. However, a 5 l V8 doesn't make any sense to me (as noted above). It really has to be a TTV8 to get the kind of power that would make it competitive. Can't see a NA 5l V8 getting 600 HP..... To really break out, they need even more than 600 HP (maybe 650) and the torque must be upwards of 550 at about 3,000 rpms. The rendering of the LC F looks nice, but I think it will look more distinctive. It still looks a lot like a LC500. I also can't believe that it will be debuted in march

Yeah its going to be a tt V-8 from what everyone is reporting..... 600hp plus

Updated: New Rumors on the Lexus LC F Coupe

Final testing in Fall 2018, released in 2019.

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So, its curb weight will be around 4000lb (4280*0.07). Still, on the hefty side compare with the likes of AMG GTR and 911. But on the flip side, replacing 5.0L with 4.0L will save some weight at the front which means better weight distribution.

So do you think we will see an LC F introduced without seeing LC 500 and 500h F-Sport vehicles? Seems kinda odd, but maybe they don't plan on bothering with the F- Sport version of their flagship coupe. If they did, it would certainly account for 2 more models in terms of their 14 new models introduced in 2018.

NVlaar

So, its curb weight will be around 4000lb (4280*0.07). Still, on the hefty side compare with the likes of AMG GTR and 911. But on the flip side, replacing 5.0L with 4.0L will save some weight at the front which means better weight distribution.

The LC500 is very heavy, even the trim with the most carbon fiber. Reducing it to ~ 4000lbs is not much. I would like to hear what is being done with the suspension, rear steer. ; I assume that they will dramatically improve on engine cooling at prolonged high revs.

Agreed that the 4L engine will shift a little more weight balance to the rear, which will be good!

I'm curious about other performance specs, including times at Nurburgring.

My bet is that the USA price will be closer to $160k. It will still be a Grand Touring Lux Coupe, but faster and a perhaps a little more nimbler than the LC500, which is a superb GT Lux coupe.

4,000 lbs is about the same weight as an early R35 GT-R. That's actually quite reasonable if it had AWD.

4000 lbs is fine for a Lux grand touring coupe.

ssun30

4,000 lbs is about the same weight as an early R35 GT-R. That's actually quite reasonable if it had AWD.

I respectfully yield, the GTR NISMO weighs 3911, so 4k is not much more. Does seem heavy, but ultimate performance will rely a lot on suspension for a car that heavy, braking too, but the LC500 has fantastic braking

Not fake news! :fist:
https://jalopnik.com/lexus-is-ditching-natural-aspiration-in-the-lc-f-repor-1821252551
http://www.carscoops.com/2017/12/lexus-insider-says-lc-f-will-use-621-hp.html
https://www.thetorquereport.com/lexus/lexus-lc-f-could-get-621-hp-twin-turbo-v8/
http://driving.ca/lexus/lf-lc/auto-news/news/lexus-rumoured-to-be-working-on-a-twin-turbo-lc-f

NVlaar

So, its curb weight will be around 4000lb (4280*0.07). Still, on the hefty side compare with the likes of AMG GTR and 911. But on the flip side, replacing 5.0L with 4.0L will save some weight at the front which means better weight distribution.

with this much HP. the car will be very fast.

PeterF

with this much HP. the car will be very fast.

No doubt about being pretty fast. But it needs state of the art AWD system to win a drag race against something like a GT-R NISMO.

NVlaar

No doubt about being pretty fast. But it needs state of the art AWD system to win a drag race against something like a GT-R NISMO.

agreed, but I think drag races are boring;

what's really interesting and telling is how it does on corners,; challenging corners and curves. It will need better suspension than the current LC at a high HP to really meet high track performers in its price range like the AMG GTR and 911 GT3

PeterF

agreed, but I think drag races are boring;

what's really interesting and telling is how it does on corners,; challenging corners and curves. It will need better suspension than the current LC at a high HP to really meet high track performers in its price range like the AMG GTR and 911 GT3

I think it is a lie to claim drag races are boring, when every company is obsessed with 0-100/0-200/0-300 km/h times, because that is what sells, while the lightweight sportscar market is dwindling away, the newest comers being the Alfa 4C and the Alpine A110. There are no corners and curves with a car much more than 1.000 kg.

Levi

I think it is a lie to claim drag races are boring, when every company is obsessed with ......

Really now, perhaps you don't understand the meaning of the word "lie." You just called me a liar, inadvertently or not.

Just because you or a number of others, such as car companies, apparently think drag racing is interesting, or at least more than boring, doesn't mean that everyone thinks that way

Lexus' strategy with F cars hasn't ever really been about numbers, but rather about how they make the driver feel. I assume the LC F will be similar.

^over the top, IMO, but not bad...

No canards and the regular F hood, and it would be perfect. Maybe the canards for a Performance Package.

Maybe they'll do another Nurburgring package?

Gecko

Lexus' strategy with F cars hasn't ever really been about numbers, but rather about how they make the driver feel. I assume the LC F will be similar.

This is true. However from what I've gathered from multiple sources, internally Lexus was told "if it doesn't have at least 600hp don't bother" in regards to the LC F....and now 600 seems to be growing to a bit more :)

If a potential LC F tightens up suspension, handling and adds more speed it really should be a hit with the press. I do wonder will they keep run-flats or go with a real Super Sport tire....

PeterF

Really now, perhaps you don't understand the meaning of the word "lie." You just called me a liar, inadvertently or not.

Just because you or a number of others, such as car companies, apparently think drag racing is interesting, or at least more than boring, doesn't mean that everyone thinks that way

Maybe not a lie, but then hypocrisy? I, just as you claim, am not that much interested in drag times, but for that reason I prefer light weight, something Lexus is not really good at. I do not think the LC-F will be light-weight. Well handling because of good engineering? Quite likely, but how fast it will accelerate will have (almost) no effect on handling.

Gecko

Lexus' strategy with F cars hasn't ever really been about numbers, but rather about how they make the driver feel. I assume the LC F will be similar.

There is no disagreement that Lexus F models make the driver feel good. But as good as its rivals? How to measure Lexus F's success, and compared to what?

I don't think drag times are all that influential. After all, the Mustang was widely considered a joke for decades vs. European competitors because "it only goes fast in a straight line".

Ian Schmidt

I don't think drag times are all that influential. After all, the Mustang was widely considered a joke for decades vs. European competitors because "it only goes fast in a straight line".

And still the LFA is considered a failure by most Germancarfans.

Levi

And still the LFA is considered a failure by most Germancarfans.

And the opinions of random carfans don't matter at all.

ssun30

And the opinions of random carfans don't matter at all.

For sales, unfortunately the opinion of the masses is more important than the assessment of those who know.

Levi

For sales, unfortunately the opinion of the masses is more important than the assessment of those who know.

The LFA sold out :)

Lexus LC Convertible Reportedly 2 Years Away, LC F Still LIkely

This pair of models would give Lexus challengers against BMW and Mercedes' grand tourers.
Lexus is close to having a convertible in its lineup again because the Japanese premium brand intends to slice the roof off the LC. The prospects look quite good for a more powerful variant of the coupe, too.

An unnamed insider tells Auto Express the LC convertible is a "done deal" and already has a green light for production. However, the model is still around two years from actually arriving at dealers.

Company execs aren't ready to confirm the drop top officially, though. "I hope that we will have a convertible in the near future. We know the luxury market requires a convertible," Yoshihiro Sawa, Senior Managing Officer of Lexus, told Auto Express.

The LC convertible's most direct competition would likely be BMW's recently spied 8 Series drop top. However, its more adventurous styling might lure a few customers away from the S550 Cabriolet, too.

Contrary to previous reports, Auto Express' insider claims that the rumored LC F doesn't yet have production approval, but execs are seriously considering building one. Prior rumors out of Japan indicate that the LC F would use a new biturbo 4.0-liter V8 with 621 horsepower (463 kilowatts) and make extensive use of carbon-fiber reinforced polymer to lower the coupe's weight. Despite the high performance upgrades, the interior would allegedly remain quite luxurious.

Judging by these reports, the LC F would be a closer competitor to AMG-tuned variants of the Mercedes S-Class, rather than a hardcore followup to the LFA supercar.

Lexus filed for a trademark on the LC F moniker in February 2017, indicating the company has been mulling over this idea for quite a while. Rumors even hinted that the model might have debuted at the Tokyo Motor Show in November, but it didn't show up there.

https://www.motor1.com/news/227557/lexus-lc-convertible-confirmation-rumor/

Is the LC-F Turbo V8 decided? Or could it also be a 700PS with hybrid or plug-in hybrid like Porsche and AMG GT4? And AWD or RWD? And if AWD, also with AWS? Could there also be LF-1 Limitless as F model later?