Lexus LC F High-Performance Coupe Arriving Later This Year?

Faisal Sheikh

Well all of the reviews seem to be quite poor of the CVT 4 speed. The rubber band effect is still there. Also, they say the engine speed is poorly matched to the gears and still has the effect of not dropping properly when you shift to the next gear.

Well the AutoExpress review I quoted speaks highly of the 4AT-eCVT, so it isn't exactly "all of the reviews" that think poorly of the new CVT, is it? I'll give you another positive review of the LC500h's CVT here:
http://autoweek.com/article/drive-reviews/2018-lexus-lc500-500s-first-drive-concept-road-car

In fact, all the reviews I've seen so far that think poorly of the new CVT think so only because they're comparing the LC500h directly to the LC500, which likely has one of the best transmissions in the industry right now. AutoExpress and AutoWeek, on the other hand, compare the LC500h to the other hybrids, and find the transmission with much to like. For a GT car I think the new 4AT-CVT is a great fit and a great blend of efficiency and feel.

The LCF trademark has now been filed in the United States, as well as a second redundant Lexus LC F trademark in Europe (the original was for LC F alone). For more details, as well as some informed speculation as to what may power the LC F, check out my latest Kaizen Factor piece:

http://kaizen-factor.com/europe-america-lexus-lc-f-trademark/

Joaquin Ruhi

The LCF trademark has now been filed in the United States, as well as a second redundant Lexus LC F trademark in Europe (the original was for LC F alone). For more details, as well as some informed speculation as to what may power the LC F, check out my latest Kaizen Factor piece:

http://kaizen-factor.com/europe-america-lexus-lc-f-trademark/

interesting that there was no space between the LC and the F...

meth.ix

interesting that there was no space between the LC and the F...

Yeah, I was surprised by that, too. The space is clearly there in both European filings but not in the American one. I don't know if that has any great significance. Then again, it seems that Toyota USA can sometimes be a bit careless in their trademark filings. They initially filed the trademark for their Nissan Juke rival as CH-R (CH-dash-R), realized their mistake and had to file a second one with the correct C-HR (C-dash-HR)

krew

Future badge also included in the submission.

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Sooner or later it will make it's debut
We already knew this from the time we knew there will be a car based on lflc
The question is what's the power train

Truly truly excited for this car..

Anyone want to take a guess on power?

I'm going to say 608hp and 642 lb-ft from a twin turbo V8.

Gecko

Anyone want to take a guess on power?

I'm going to say 608hp and 642 lb-ft from a twin turbo V8.

That would be nice, but the LC 500 is good enough for me! I wouldn't be able to handle a twin turbo V8!

Gecko

Anyone want to take a guess on power?

I'm going to say 608hp and 642 lb-ft from a twin turbo V8.

Pretty precise there! I'll say 615hp and 655 lbs of torque. Enough for marketing to say 200 more than the LS 500.

Gecko

Anyone want to take a guess on power?

I'm going to say 608hp and 642 lb-ft from a twin turbo V8.

No confidence in them using hybrid power?

Mohammed Taha

No confidence in them using hybrid power?

I do not think so, at this point.

Gecko

I do not think so, at this point.

<---- Must be due to how badly we got burnt by the sriracha episode

I'm strongly with the Hybrid powertrain since I heard before from some sources of that, the engine compartment is so tight and there is no room for Supercharger or Turbos.



So I guess its either, a smaller engine with twin turbo (maybe a V6 ), or High performance Hybrid

Madi

I'm strongly with the Hybrid powertrain since I heard before from some sources of that, the engine compartment is so tight and there is no room for Supercharger or Turbos.



So I guess its either, a smaller engine with twin turbo (maybe a V6 ), or High performance Hybrid

Not necessarily. BMW puts its twin-turbos between the banks of the V8 so it's just about as compact as the regular V8. Lexus can learn from them.
http://www.bmw.com/com/en/insights/technology/technology_guide/articles/eight_cylinder_engine.html

Madi

I'm strongly with the Hybrid powertrain since I heard before from some sources of that, the engine compartment is so tight and there is no room for Supercharger or Turbos.



So I guess its either, a smaller engine with twin turbo (maybe a V6 ), or High performance Hybrid

As much as I'd like to see a TT V8, I think the Lexus engineers will follow the footsteps of the new NSX engineers. The hybrid motor will add another 90-100 hp. Lexus has to know that the bulk of the performance enthusiast won't be able to afford this. The real question will be what the increase in price is. I say a 25K bump at least.

600-hp LC F coming.... :neutral:

http://blog.caranddriver.com/scoop-600-hp-lexus-lc-f-coming-this-fall/?src=socialflowFB

krew

Packed with 600 horsepower.

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I predict they going to tune the current 5liter v8 in the LC for higher power. There is a lot of power to be had in this 5liter without the use of turbo. If they use turbos this would mean an LC500 would still sound better then an LCF

Regarding the Tokyo show not being the most likely venue,there's also a rumour that Toyota will show a production ready FT-1 (Supra),a near production ready S-FR and the next Auris/Corolla including a 250hp sports version,and Lexus might hold off on the LC F to not have all these performance models fighting for attention.

Lexus LC and BMW i8 are the most interesting "sportscars" on sale IMO.


The I4+I4=V8 thing is interesting. That is how TMC got the V8 Diesel. Makes me wonder what the new Land Cruiser will get? V8 Diesel? V8 Gasoline? V6 Diesel? V6 Gasoline Hybrid? V6 Diesel Hybrid?

The torque rating is too low for a turbo V8

Question isn't the GS being cancelled (I know we have a thread on it)? But isn't this saying 550 HP for the next GSF? If there's a next GSF there has to be a Regular GS rt...?!

Yeah that story doesn't pass the smell test to me. Too many things that don't make sense. First of all, yes the stated torque figure is way too low for a twin turbo V8. Secondly two 8AR engines joined together? That makes no sense. The 8AR engine is certainly not a Lexus-worthy or Lexus-like engine. For evidence, look at various Lexus NX owners complaining about lack of refinement from the engine. So two 8ARs joined together, no matter with how much modification, IMO will not produce a Lexus-worthy engine. If this actually does end up being true, it will be shocking and VERY disappointing.

Audis 4.0tt can make anywhere from 420-605hp and some with a tune.... it's one hell of an engine. Lexus going this route excites me.

That Audi engine also is very fuel efficient on the highway.

LDEUX

As much as I'd like to see a TT V8, I think the Lexus engineers will follow the footsteps of the new NSX engineers. The hybrid motor will add another 90-100 hp. Lexus has to know that the bulk of the performance enthusiast won't be able to afford this. The real question will be what the increase in price is. I say a 25K bump at least.

The NSX is a porker at 3800lbs due to all the hybrid tech. We would have a 5000 lbs LC F!

James

Question isn't the GS being cancelled (I know we have a thread on it)? But isn't this saying 550 HP for the next GSF? If there's a next GSF there has to be a Regular GS rt...?!

No, as I said before,,, those three cars : IS , GS and LS will never be canceled. And if we talk about the GS especially its just a Luxury version of Toyota MARK X, so as well as the Mark X exists the GS will never be canceled.

Madi

No, as I said before,,, those three cars : IS , GS and LS will never be canceled. And if we talk about the GS especially its just a Luxury version of Toyota MARK X, so as well as the Mark X exists the GS will never be canceled.

That is a pretty good point...it still all stems to the media and internet trolls taking one misquoted sentence from Akio and turning it into something else. Akio told his engineers when driving the current GS the first time if that is the best they can do, then just cancel the car. It never was seriously on the chopping block. Trolls ran with it.

The current GS is the best selling generation ever.

This I've gotta see (LC-F). I think there something fishy with the GS-F rumor though. When have you seen Lexus or any other manufacturer switch the motor in the same generation of the car? I don't mean adding another option (e.g. 2.0L turbo and 3.5L V6), I mean getting rid of the 2UR-GSE that's currently in the GS-F for this new TT V8. And if this is true, the RC-F has officially become the red-headed step child of the F lineup. Poor thing.. Lexus sure blew that platform (chassis weight), it had sooo much potential.

:pensive: Lexus denies rumor of LC F....

http://www.thedrive.com/news/7962/lexus-denies-rumor-of-new-600-horsepower-lexus-lc-f

Who will tell the truth?! :confused:

Here is the exact quote:

"We’ve been reading stories about an LC F supposedly debuting in Tokyo as well, and I can tell you that it is not true," the Lexus spokesperson said over email.

To me, that just means the car isn't debuting in Tokyo. LC F is happening.