Lexus UX Crossover to be Brand’s First Full-Electric Vehicle

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Eventually, most car makers will shift to BEV if it means cheaper production costs (higher and higher CAFE requirements) and much lower warranty claims. I don't ever think the engine or transmission is a competitive advantage because lots of car makers outsource transmissions from partners anyway.

The losers in the BEV adoption are car dealerships but even then, they're not going to be deprived of maintenance and repair work but will just be able to upsell on still needless services a lot less.

I doubt that Toyota dealers will have much less work than now? Or that warranty claims will be much less?
Problem is that when something fails, warranty cost is likely to be huge since small parts likely won't be replaced.

So manufacturers will still charge a sizable sum for checkups and will use that as warranty money for batteries and other parts. Just like Tesla charges mandatory $600 for checkup with no work done.

As to the competitive advantage, they will still buy a lot of things from suppliers and they will still try to have advantage over other brands.
Car manufacturers have huge R&D budget and they will try to do their own parts to make it cheaper and more unique.

There will be some shifting of work for sure, for instance more electrical work will be done at dealers, car batteries and motors need less work to be assembled but something else will take up their place and in the cars will be more and more expensive.

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Eventually, most car makers will shift to BEV if it means cheaper production costs (higher and higher CAFE requirements) and much lower warranty claims. I don't ever think the engine or transmission is a competitive advantage because lots of car makers outsource transmissions from partners anyway.

The losers in the BEV adoption are car dealerships but even then, they're not going to be deprived of maintenance and repair work but will just be able to upsell on still needless services a lot less.

I doubt that Toyota dealers will have much less work than now? Or that warranty claims will be much less?
Problem is that when something fails, warranty cost is likely to be huge since small parts likely won't be replaced.

So manufacturers will still charge a sizable sum for checkups and will use that as warranty money for batteries and other parts. Just like Tesla charges mandatory $600 for checkup with no work done.

As to the competitive advantage, they will still buy a lot of things from suppliers and they will still try to have advantage over other brands.
Car manufacturers have huge R&D budget and they will try to do their own parts to make it cheaper and more unique.

There will be some shifting of work for sure, for instance more electrical work will be done at dealers, car batteries and motors need less work to be assembled but something else will take up their place and in the cars will be more and more expensive.

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Eventually, most car makers will shift to BEV if it means cheaper production costs (higher and higher CAFE requirements) and much lower warranty claims. I don't ever think the engine or transmission is a competitive advantage because lots of car makers outsource transmissions from partners anyway.

The losers in the BEV adoption are car dealerships but even then, they're not going to be deprived of maintenance and repair work but will just be able to upsell on still needless services a lot less.

I doubt that Toyota dealers will have much less work than now? Or that warranty claims will be much less?
Problem is that when something fails, warranty cost is likely to be huge since small parts likely won't be replaced.

So manufacturers will still charge a sizable sum for checkups and will use that as warranty money for batteries and other parts. Just like Tesla charges mandatory $600 for checkup with no work done.

As to the competitive advantage, they will still buy a lot of things from suppliers and they will still try to have advantage over other brands.
Car manufacturers have huge R&D budget and they will try to do their own parts to make it cheaper and more unique.

There will be some shifting of work for sure, for instance more electrical work will be done at dealers, car batteries and motors need less work to be assembled but something else will take up their place and in the cars will be more and more expensive.

Also, outside of the drivetrain BEVs are just like other cars and all those other parts will need the same maintenance they do in ICE cars. The 5,000 mile service will still involve rotating the tires and checking the brakes and stuff, just not changing the oil and refilling the radiator.

Also, outside of the drivetrain BEVs are just like other cars and all those other parts will need the same maintenance they do in ICE cars. The 5,000 mile service will still involve rotating the tires and checking the brakes and stuff, just not changing the oil and refilling the radiator.

Also, outside of the drivetrain BEVs are just like other cars and all those other parts will need the same maintenance they do in ICE cars. The 5,000 mile service will still involve rotating the tires and checking the brakes and stuff, just not changing the oil and refilling the radiator.

Ian Schmidt

Also, outside of the drivetrain BEVs are just like other cars and all those other parts will need the same maintenance they do in ICE cars. The 5,000 mile service will still involve rotating the tires and checking the brakes and stuff, just not changing the oil and refilling the radiator.

in europe, most brands have oil chainges in 30,000km (2 years) but in reality dealers never had more work to do...

Ian Schmidt

Also, outside of the drivetrain BEVs are just like other cars and all those other parts will need the same maintenance they do in ICE cars. The 5,000 mile service will still involve rotating the tires and checking the brakes and stuff, just not changing the oil and refilling the radiator.

in europe, most brands have oil chainges in 30,000km (2 years) but in reality dealers never had more work to do...

Ian Schmidt

Also, outside of the drivetrain BEVs are just like other cars and all those other parts will need the same maintenance they do in ICE cars. The 5,000 mile service will still involve rotating the tires and checking the brakes and stuff, just not changing the oil and refilling the radiator.

in europe, most brands have oil chainges in 30,000km (2 years) but in reality dealers never had more work to do...

krew

First Full-Electric Lexus to be Next-Generation CT Hatchback?

Ah how sweet it might have been!

krew

First Full-Electric Lexus to be Next-Generation CT Hatchback?

Ah how sweet it might have been!

krew

First Full-Electric Lexus to be Next-Generation CT Hatchback?

Ah how sweet it might have been!

Which Lexus models do you think will be electrified first if the CT is really dead?

To me it's looking more like the UX will be first since it now sits on the new GA-C (maybe the same as TNGA) platform.

Which Lexus models do you think will be electrified first if the CT is really dead?

To me it's looking more like the UX will be first since it now sits on the new GA-C (maybe the same as TNGA) platform.

Which Lexus models do you think will be electrified first if the CT is really dead?

To me it's looking more like the UX will be first since it now sits on the new GA-C (maybe the same as TNGA) platform.

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Which Lexus models do you think will be electrified first if the CT is really dead?

To me it's looking more like the UX will be first since it now sits on the new GA-C (maybe the same as TNGA) platform.

100% the UX. Period.

The fact that it is a small, compact (hatchback) crossover, is a good platform to begin on electrification. I doubt they would start something as high as the ES, RX, IS or NX. The UX simply makes sense to be the first electrified Lexus model for a plethora of reasons.

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Which Lexus models do you think will be electrified first if the CT is really dead?

To me it's looking more like the UX will be first since it now sits on the new GA-C (maybe the same as TNGA) platform.

100% the UX. Period.

The fact that it is a small, compact (hatchback) crossover, is a good platform to begin on electrification. I doubt they would start something as high as the ES, RX, IS or NX. The UX simply makes sense to be the first electrified Lexus model for a plethora of reasons.

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Which Lexus models do you think will be electrified first if the CT is really dead?

To me it's looking more like the UX will be first since it now sits on the new GA-C (maybe the same as TNGA) platform.

100% the UX. Period.

The fact that it is a small, compact (hatchback) crossover, is a good platform to begin on electrification. I doubt they would start something as high as the ES, RX, IS or NX. The UX simply makes sense to be the first electrified Lexus model for a plethora of reasons.

^ Cool. This is perfect if a BEV variant is released for the 2021 MY (I don't even mind 2022 if my 02 Civic is still running fine lol). I want a BEV for our next car and my wife had begun to have a love affair with CUVs, which is why we got a RAV4H.

Between the iX3 and the UX BEV, I would rather save a fortune (in total cost of ownership) and go with the latter. :)

^ Cool. This is perfect if a BEV variant is released for the 2021 MY (I don't even mind 2022 if my 02 Civic is still running fine lol). I want a BEV for our next car and my wife had begun to have a love affair with CUVs, which is why we got a RAV4H.

Between the iX3 and the UX BEV, I would rather save a fortune (in total cost of ownership) and go with the latter. :)

^ Cool. This is perfect if a BEV variant is released for the 2021 MY (I don't even mind 2022 if my 02 Civic is still running fine lol). I want a BEV for our next car and my wife had begun to have a love affair with CUVs, which is why we got a RAV4H.

Between the iX3 and the UX BEV, I would rather save a fortune (in total cost of ownership) and go with the latter. :)

I doubt it will be UX.

Most sense would be to do it for LF-1.

But it could also likely come in some form of NX sized SUV/CUV.

I doubt it will be UX.

Most sense would be to do it for LF-1.

But it could also likely come in some form of NX sized SUV/CUV.

I doubt it will be UX.

Most sense would be to do it for LF-1.

But it could also likely come in some form of NX sized SUV/CUV.

As long as it's the NX and not the RX (way out of our league), we should be good.

Is it because the UX is too small? When is the all-new NX coming out and it should be riding on the GC-A platform, correct?

As long as it's the NX and not the RX (way out of our league), we should be good.

Is it because the UX is too small? When is the all-new NX coming out and it should be riding on the GC-A platform, correct?

As long as it's the NX and not the RX (way out of our league), we should be good.

Is it because the UX is too small? When is the all-new NX coming out and it should be riding on the GC-A platform, correct?

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As long as it's the NX and not the RX (way out of our league), we should be good.

Is it because the UX is too small? When is the all-new NX coming out and it should be riding on the GC-A platform, correct?

Because of the powertrain, it has to be a lot more expensive. Plus people desire powerful EVs such as Teslas.

Combine those two and it makes sense to have something that you can sell at higher price as desirable vehicle.

Unfortunately if you look at sales trends, right now as well as in the past, most non-tesla (and much less desirable) EVs are actually sold with huge discounts in the end. Currently BMW i3 has $10k discount attached in the California, on the top of other $10k tax incentives.

It is just the way market works currently. For instance Prius Prime sells great right now at 2k per month vs main Prius's 5.7k in the US... But if we know that people get discounts and tax backs and end up paying less for Prime than for regular Prius, it tells you about current affordable EV market conditions.

Maybe some manufacturer that has worse average mpg and no other green cars to offset their truck sales will have been offer. For instance, Kona EV from Hyundai certainly looks interesting.

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As long as it's the NX and not the RX (way out of our league), we should be good.

Is it because the UX is too small? When is the all-new NX coming out and it should be riding on the GC-A platform, correct?

Because of the powertrain, it has to be a lot more expensive. Plus people desire powerful EVs such as Teslas.

Combine those two and it makes sense to have something that you can sell at higher price as desirable vehicle.

Unfortunately if you look at sales trends, right now as well as in the past, most non-tesla (and much less desirable) EVs are actually sold with huge discounts in the end. Currently BMW i3 has $10k discount attached in the California, on the top of other $10k tax incentives.

It is just the way market works currently. For instance Prius Prime sells great right now at 2k per month vs main Prius's 5.7k in the US... But if we know that people get discounts and tax backs and end up paying less for Prime than for regular Prius, it tells you about current affordable EV market conditions.

Maybe some manufacturer that has worse average mpg and no other green cars to offset their truck sales will have been offer. For instance, Kona EV from Hyundai certainly looks interesting.

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As long as it's the NX and not the RX (way out of our league), we should be good.

Is it because the UX is too small? When is the all-new NX coming out and it should be riding on the GC-A platform, correct?

Because of the powertrain, it has to be a lot more expensive. Plus people desire powerful EVs such as Teslas.

Combine those two and it makes sense to have something that you can sell at higher price as desirable vehicle.

Unfortunately if you look at sales trends, right now as well as in the past, most non-tesla (and much less desirable) EVs are actually sold with huge discounts in the end. Currently BMW i3 has $10k discount attached in the California, on the top of other $10k tax incentives.

It is just the way market works currently. For instance Prius Prime sells great right now at 2k per month vs main Prius's 5.7k in the US... But if we know that people get discounts and tax backs and end up paying less for Prime than for regular Prius, it tells you about current affordable EV market conditions.

Maybe some manufacturer that has worse average mpg and no other green cars to offset their truck sales will have been offer. For instance, Kona EV from Hyundai certainly looks interesting.