First 2019 Lexus ES Sedan Rolls Off Production Line in Kentucky

pretty sure the video shows C-HR and UX, C-HR with standard electronic based awd and UX with new one:

pretty sure the video shows C-HR and UX, C-HR with standard electronic based awd and UX with new one:

pretty sure the video shows C-HR and UX, C-HR with standard electronic based awd and UX with new one:

Grill's not my cup of tea but looks promising performance-wise

Grill's not my cup of tea but looks promising performance-wise

Grill's not my cup of tea but looks promising performance-wise

Grill's not my cup of tea but looks promising performance-wise

bogglo

OK I agree an AWD will be nice with this.

As is tradition, real world pics/video looks much better than Toyota's press shots. I have to say though, wow that looks gorgeous! Exterior-wise, it looks as expensive as a GS.

The surfacing, the detailing, the total package...a total homerun for the price. I expect the interior in real life looks better than press shots as well.

F1 Silver Arrows

In regards to this whole issue, I initially thought Lexus was going to introduce a competitor AWD system to things like 4MATIC, xDrive, Quattro or SH-AWD? I wasn't fully following on this specific subject on the thread, because I didn't get anything surprising from this. I am a huge fan of technology, but nothing made me perk up.

So can someone clarify? Is Lexus going to actually introduce a system that rivals to competitors or is it simply an improved based of the traction control based AWD system that these things had?

Toyota doesn't do technology for technology's sake. That's not the Toyota (or Lexus) way.

Toyota is traditionally quite secretive about future product. Now in the Akio Toyoda era arguably more so than before. Will Lexus introduce such a system? We won't know until we know. The Dynamic Torque Vectoring system recently introduced by Toyota is arguably already very close to the competition you mentioned. Toyota's new Dynamic Torque Vectoring system is a mechanical AWD system that also has a mechanical disconnect. So it's a part-time mechanical torque vectoring AWD system. That's not necessarily a bad thing, since torque vectoring AWD systems by their very nature only send power where it is needed.

bogglo

OK I agree an AWD will be nice with this.

As is tradition, real world pics/video looks much better than Toyota's press shots. I have to say though, wow that looks gorgeous! Exterior-wise, it looks as expensive as a GS.

The surfacing, the detailing, the total package...a total homerun for the price. I expect the interior in real life looks better than press shots as well.

F1 Silver Arrows

In regards to this whole issue, I initially thought Lexus was going to introduce a competitor AWD system to things like 4MATIC, xDrive, Quattro or SH-AWD? I wasn't fully following on this specific subject on the thread, because I didn't get anything surprising from this. I am a huge fan of technology, but nothing made me perk up.

So can someone clarify? Is Lexus going to actually introduce a system that rivals to competitors or is it simply an improved based of the traction control based AWD system that these things had?

Toyota doesn't do technology for technology's sake. That's not the Toyota (or Lexus) way.

Toyota is traditionally quite secretive about future product. Now in the Akio Toyoda era arguably more so than before. Will Lexus introduce such a system? We won't know until we know. The Dynamic Torque Vectoring system recently introduced by Toyota is arguably already very close to the competition you mentioned. Toyota's new Dynamic Torque Vectoring system is a mechanical AWD system that also has a mechanical disconnect. So it's a part-time mechanical torque vectoring AWD system. That's not necessarily a bad thing, since torque vectoring AWD systems by their very nature only send power where it is needed.

bogglo

OK I agree an AWD will be nice with this.

As is tradition, real world pics/video looks much better than Toyota's press shots. I have to say though, wow that looks gorgeous! Exterior-wise, it looks as expensive as a GS.

The surfacing, the detailing, the total package...a total homerun for the price. I expect the interior in real life looks better than press shots as well.

F1 Silver Arrows

In regards to this whole issue, I initially thought Lexus was going to introduce a competitor AWD system to things like 4MATIC, xDrive, Quattro or SH-AWD? I wasn't fully following on this specific subject on the thread, because I didn't get anything surprising from this. I am a huge fan of technology, but nothing made me perk up.

So can someone clarify? Is Lexus going to actually introduce a system that rivals to competitors or is it simply an improved based of the traction control based AWD system that these things had?

Toyota doesn't do technology for technology's sake. That's not the Toyota (or Lexus) way.

Toyota is traditionally quite secretive about future product. Now in the Akio Toyoda era arguably more so than before. Will Lexus introduce such a system? We won't know until we know. The Dynamic Torque Vectoring system recently introduced by Toyota is arguably already very close to the competition you mentioned. Toyota's new Dynamic Torque Vectoring system is a mechanical AWD system that also has a mechanical disconnect. So it's a part-time mechanical torque vectoring AWD system. That's not necessarily a bad thing, since torque vectoring AWD systems by their very nature only send power where it is needed.

bogglo

OK I agree an AWD will be nice with this.

As is tradition, real world pics/video looks much better than Toyota's press shots. I have to say though, wow that looks gorgeous! Exterior-wise, it looks as expensive as a GS.

The surfacing, the detailing, the total package...a total homerun for the price. I expect the interior in real life looks better than press shots as well.

F1 Silver Arrows

In regards to this whole issue, I initially thought Lexus was going to introduce a competitor AWD system to things like 4MATIC, xDrive, Quattro or SH-AWD? I wasn't fully following on this specific subject on the thread, because I didn't get anything surprising from this. I am a huge fan of technology, but nothing made me perk up.

So can someone clarify? Is Lexus going to actually introduce a system that rivals to competitors or is it simply an improved based of the traction control based AWD system that these things had?

Toyota doesn't do technology for technology's sake. That's not the Toyota (or Lexus) way.

Toyota is traditionally quite secretive about future product. Now in the Akio Toyoda era arguably more so than before. Will Lexus introduce such a system? We won't know until we know. The Dynamic Torque Vectoring system recently introduced by Toyota is arguably already very close to the competition you mentioned. Toyota's new Dynamic Torque Vectoring system is a mechanical AWD system that also has a mechanical disconnect. So it's a part-time mechanical torque vectoring AWD system. That's not necessarily a bad thing, since torque vectoring AWD systems by their very nature only send power where it is needed.

CIF

Toyota doesn't do technology for technology's sake. That's not the Toyota (or Lexus) way.

Toyota is traditionally quite secretive about future product. Now in the Akio Toyoda era arguably more so than before. Will Lexus introduce such a system? We won't know until we know. The Dynamic Torque Vectoring system recently introduced by Toyota is arguably already very close to the competition you mentioned. Toyota's new Dynamic Torque Vectoring system is a mechanical AWD system that also has a mechanical disconnect. So it's a part-time mechanical torque vectoring AWD system. That's not necessarily a bad thing, since torque vectoring AWD systems by their very nature only send power where it is needed.

I am aware about the mechanical disconnect. The very important question for me is that once it does disconnect, in basic form, are only the rear wheels powered (indicating this RWD based) or to the front wheels (indicating this is FWD based) or it can go both ways depending on the model? If it only goes to front wheels for the cars that this system is introduced in, I'm thinking that Lexus is moving towards Audi in terms of drivetrain layout, but in terms of sportiness and pure luxury, shifting towards Mercedes-Benz.

CIF

Toyota doesn't do technology for technology's sake. That's not the Toyota (or Lexus) way.

Toyota is traditionally quite secretive about future product. Now in the Akio Toyoda era arguably more so than before. Will Lexus introduce such a system? We won't know until we know. The Dynamic Torque Vectoring system recently introduced by Toyota is arguably already very close to the competition you mentioned. Toyota's new Dynamic Torque Vectoring system is a mechanical AWD system that also has a mechanical disconnect. So it's a part-time mechanical torque vectoring AWD system. That's not necessarily a bad thing, since torque vectoring AWD systems by their very nature only send power where it is needed.

I am aware about the mechanical disconnect. The very important question for me is that once it does disconnect, in basic form, are only the rear wheels powered (indicating this RWD based) or to the front wheels (indicating this is FWD based) or it can go both ways depending on the model? If it only goes to front wheels for the cars that this system is introduced in, I'm thinking that Lexus is moving towards Audi in terms of drivetrain layout, but in terms of sportiness and pure luxury, shifting towards Mercedes-Benz.

CIF

Toyota doesn't do technology for technology's sake. That's not the Toyota (or Lexus) way.

Toyota is traditionally quite secretive about future product. Now in the Akio Toyoda era arguably more so than before. Will Lexus introduce such a system? We won't know until we know. The Dynamic Torque Vectoring system recently introduced by Toyota is arguably already very close to the competition you mentioned. Toyota's new Dynamic Torque Vectoring system is a mechanical AWD system that also has a mechanical disconnect. So it's a part-time mechanical torque vectoring AWD system. That's not necessarily a bad thing, since torque vectoring AWD systems by their very nature only send power where it is needed.

I am aware about the mechanical disconnect. The very important question for me is that once it does disconnect, in basic form, are only the rear wheels powered (indicating this RWD based) or to the front wheels (indicating this is FWD based) or it can go both ways depending on the model? If it only goes to front wheels for the cars that this system is introduced in, I'm thinking that Lexus is moving towards Audi in terms of drivetrain layout, but in terms of sportiness and pure luxury, shifting towards Mercedes-Benz.

CIF

Toyota doesn't do technology for technology's sake. That's not the Toyota (or Lexus) way.

Toyota is traditionally quite secretive about future product. Now in the Akio Toyoda era arguably more so than before. Will Lexus introduce such a system? We won't know until we know. The Dynamic Torque Vectoring system recently introduced by Toyota is arguably already very close to the competition you mentioned. Toyota's new Dynamic Torque Vectoring system is a mechanical AWD system that also has a mechanical disconnect. So it's a part-time mechanical torque vectoring AWD system. That's not necessarily a bad thing, since torque vectoring AWD systems by their very nature only send power where it is needed.

I am aware about the mechanical disconnect. The very important question for me is that once it does disconnect, in basic form, are only the rear wheels powered (indicating this RWD based) or to the front wheels (indicating this is FWD based) or it can go both ways depending on the model? If it only goes to front wheels for the cars that this system is introduced in, I'm thinking that Lexus is moving towards Audi in terms of drivetrain layout, but in terms of sportiness and pure luxury, shifting towards Mercedes-Benz.

F1 Silver Arrows

I am aware about the mechanical disconnect. The very important question for me is that once it does disconnect, in basic form, are only the rear wheels powered (indicating this RWD based) or to the front wheels (indicating this is FWD based) or it can go both ways depending on the model? If it only goes to front wheels for the cars that this system is introduced in, I'm thinking that Lexus is moving towards Audi in terms of drivetrain layout, but in terms of sportiness and pure luxury, shifting towards Mercedes-Benz.

As it stands, we have so far only seen this new Dynamic Torque Vectoring available in an FF layout, and therefore being FWD based. We don't know if the system can be RWD based, or if Lexus will get a variant of this system, or perhaps an entirely new system.

F1 Silver Arrows

I am aware about the mechanical disconnect. The very important question for me is that once it does disconnect, in basic form, are only the rear wheels powered (indicating this RWD based) or to the front wheels (indicating this is FWD based) or it can go both ways depending on the model? If it only goes to front wheels for the cars that this system is introduced in, I'm thinking that Lexus is moving towards Audi in terms of drivetrain layout, but in terms of sportiness and pure luxury, shifting towards Mercedes-Benz.

As it stands, we have so far only seen this new Dynamic Torque Vectoring available in an FF layout, and therefore being FWD based. We don't know if the system can be RWD based, or if Lexus will get a variant of this system, or perhaps an entirely new system.

F1 Silver Arrows

I am aware about the mechanical disconnect. The very important question for me is that once it does disconnect, in basic form, are only the rear wheels powered (indicating this RWD based) or to the front wheels (indicating this is FWD based) or it can go both ways depending on the model? If it only goes to front wheels for the cars that this system is introduced in, I'm thinking that Lexus is moving towards Audi in terms of drivetrain layout, but in terms of sportiness and pure luxury, shifting towards Mercedes-Benz.

As it stands, we have so far only seen this new Dynamic Torque Vectoring available in an FF layout, and therefore being FWD based. We don't know if the system can be RWD based, or if Lexus will get a variant of this system, or perhaps an entirely new system.

F1 Silver Arrows

I am aware about the mechanical disconnect. The very important question for me is that once it does disconnect, in basic form, are only the rear wheels powered (indicating this RWD based) or to the front wheels (indicating this is FWD based) or it can go both ways depending on the model? If it only goes to front wheels for the cars that this system is introduced in, I'm thinking that Lexus is moving towards Audi in terms of drivetrain layout, but in terms of sportiness and pure luxury, shifting towards Mercedes-Benz.

As it stands, we have so far only seen this new Dynamic Torque Vectoring available in an FF layout, and therefore being FWD based. We don't know if the system can be RWD based, or if Lexus will get a variant of this system, or perhaps an entirely new system.

CIF

As it stands, we have so far only seen this new Dynamic Torque Vectoring available in an FF layout, and therefore being FWD based. We don't know if the system can be RWD based, or if Lexus will get a variant of this system, or perhaps an entirely new system.

Toyota said three 4WD systems and 10 variants. I think it's pretty obvious the three systems are DTV-AWD, E-Four, and next-gen truck 4WD. The non-fancy version AWD used on some trims of the new RAV4 is considered an older generation system.

That means longitudinal RWD-based AWD system will be a variant of DTV-AWD.

CIF

As it stands, we have so far only seen this new Dynamic Torque Vectoring available in an FF layout, and therefore being FWD based. We don't know if the system can be RWD based, or if Lexus will get a variant of this system, or perhaps an entirely new system.

Toyota said three 4WD systems and 10 variants. I think it's pretty obvious the three systems are DTV-AWD, E-Four, and next-gen truck 4WD. The non-fancy version AWD used on some trims of the new RAV4 is considered an older generation system.

That means longitudinal RWD-based AWD system will be a variant of DTV-AWD.

CIF

As it stands, we have so far only seen this new Dynamic Torque Vectoring available in an FF layout, and therefore being FWD based. We don't know if the system can be RWD based, or if Lexus will get a variant of this system, or perhaps an entirely new system.

Toyota said three 4WD systems and 10 variants. I think it's pretty obvious the three systems are DTV-AWD, E-Four, and next-gen truck 4WD. The non-fancy version AWD used on some trims of the new RAV4 is considered an older generation system.

That means longitudinal RWD-based AWD system will be a variant of DTV-AWD.

CIF

As it stands, we have so far only seen this new Dynamic Torque Vectoring available in an FF layout, and therefore being FWD based. We don't know if the system can be RWD based, or if Lexus will get a variant of this system, or perhaps an entirely new system.

Toyota said three 4WD systems and 10 variants. I think it's pretty obvious the three systems are DTV-AWD, E-Four, and next-gen truck 4WD. The non-fancy version AWD used on some trims of the new RAV4 is considered an older generation system.

That means longitudinal RWD-based AWD system will be a variant of DTV-AWD.

ssun30

Toyota said three 4WD systems and 10 variants. I think it's pretty obvious the three systems are DTV-AWD, E-Four, and next-gen truck 4WD. The non-fancy version AWD used on some trims of the new RAV4 is considered an older generation system.

That means longitudinal RWD-based AWD system will be a variant of DTV-AWD.

I dont think anything is obvious though, because for LS500 AWD they use traditional full time awd and it is not included there on the list. Just like that, traditional truck system will not be included on that list either.

So included is only something all new, I doubt it will be for RWD vehicles since ultimately what they have now with full time awd is the best system you can have.

All these new systems are for lowering costs and increasing mpg, which is great for Rav4 but not for FT-1.

So not sure whats the 3rd version really. Unless it is going to be some full time awd version that is going to be applicable to both trucks and lexus rwd vehicles.

ssun30

Toyota said three 4WD systems and 10 variants. I think it's pretty obvious the three systems are DTV-AWD, E-Four, and next-gen truck 4WD. The non-fancy version AWD used on some trims of the new RAV4 is considered an older generation system.

That means longitudinal RWD-based AWD system will be a variant of DTV-AWD.

I dont think anything is obvious though, because for LS500 AWD they use traditional full time awd and it is not included there on the list. Just like that, traditional truck system will not be included on that list either.

So included is only something all new, I doubt it will be for RWD vehicles since ultimately what they have now with full time awd is the best system you can have.

All these new systems are for lowering costs and increasing mpg, which is great for Rav4 but not for FT-1.

So not sure whats the 3rd version really. Unless it is going to be some full time awd version that is going to be applicable to both trucks and lexus rwd vehicles.

ssun30

Toyota said three 4WD systems and 10 variants. I think it's pretty obvious the three systems are DTV-AWD, E-Four, and next-gen truck 4WD. The non-fancy version AWD used on some trims of the new RAV4 is considered an older generation system.

That means longitudinal RWD-based AWD system will be a variant of DTV-AWD.

I dont think anything is obvious though, because for LS500 AWD they use traditional full time awd and it is not included there on the list. Just like that, traditional truck system will not be included on that list either.

So included is only something all new, I doubt it will be for RWD vehicles since ultimately what they have now with full time awd is the best system you can have.

All these new systems are for lowering costs and increasing mpg, which is great for Rav4 but not for FT-1.

So not sure whats the 3rd version really. Unless it is going to be some full time awd version that is going to be applicable to both trucks and lexus rwd vehicles.

ssun30

Toyota said three 4WD systems and 10 variants. I think it's pretty obvious the three systems are DTV-AWD, E-Four, and next-gen truck 4WD. The non-fancy version AWD used on some trims of the new RAV4 is considered an older generation system.

That means longitudinal RWD-based AWD system will be a variant of DTV-AWD.

I dont think anything is obvious though, because for LS500 AWD they use traditional full time awd and it is not included there on the list. Just like that, traditional truck system will not be included on that list either.

So included is only something all new, I doubt it will be for RWD vehicles since ultimately what they have now with full time awd is the best system you can have.

All these new systems are for lowering costs and increasing mpg, which is great for Rav4 but not for FT-1.

So not sure whats the 3rd version really. Unless it is going to be some full time awd version that is going to be applicable to both trucks and lexus rwd vehicles.

Does LS500 AWD have front/rear and rear right/left torque vectoring?

Also does LS have AWD with AWS? Does the ES have AWS? Renault Talisman has.

Does LS500 AWD have front/rear and rear right/left torque vectoring?

Also does LS have AWD with AWS? Does the ES have AWS? Renault Talisman has.

Does LS500 AWD have front/rear and rear right/left torque vectoring?

Also does LS have AWD with AWS? Does the ES have AWS? Renault Talisman has.