Comparing the New Lexus ES & Lexus LS Sedans

Posted by Kevin on April 18th, 2018

The next-generation Lexus ES has been revealed, and the similarities with the exterior design of the LS flagship are undeniable — let’s put them side-by-side for a comparison:

Lexus ES vs Lexus LS Front

Lexus ES vs Lexus LS Side

There are so many shared design cues that pointing out the differences turns into a game of its own — the headlights, the grille pattern, the lack of a chrome samurai blade along the bottom of the doors.

Overall, the ES is softer in its curves and less articulated in its angles, but this should be expected and even preferred. After all, the LS is the Lexus sedan flagship and can’t give away all its secrets.

(Special thanks to RAL on the forums for this post idea!)

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Rob_LexusTech
sick of FWD cars. im a RWD guy. always have been. the ES would actually be a blast to drive if it was RWD. because its not, i will never consider it an option for myself. even AWD, dont matter. its not RWD. its just not the same feeling. i dont like it. i hate torque steer, even though the es isnt bad about that, its still there. i dont like the way FWD cars behave in the snow and around curves. they sketch me out. there will never be a FWD car ill ever get along with, nomatter what it is. however, the next ES is insanley sexy looking, and im on the edge of my seat waiting for the reveal lol
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Rob_LexusTech
sick of FWD cars. im a RWD guy. always have been. the ES would actually be a blast to drive if it was RWD. because its not, i will never consider it an option for myself. even AWD, dont matter. its not RWD. its just not the same feeling. i dont like it. i hate torque steer, even though the es isnt bad about that, its still there. i dont like the way FWD cars behave in the snow and around curves. they sketch me out. there will never be a FWD car ill ever get along with, nomatter what it is. however, the next ES is insanley sexy looking, and im on the edge of my seat waiting for the reveal lol
Same, same, same!
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Rob_LexusTech
sick of FWD cars. im a RWD guy. always have been. the ES would actually be a blast to drive if it was RWD. because its not, i will never consider it an option for myself. even AWD, dont matter. its not RWD. its just not the same feeling. i dont like it. i hate torque steer, even though the es isnt bad about that, its still there. i dont like the way FWD cars behave in the snow and around curves. they sketch me out. there will never be a FWD car ill ever get along with, nomatter what it is. however, the next ES is insanley sexy looking, and im on the edge of my seat waiting for the reveal lol
THANK YOU! I said the exact same thing before too! +1


For those who was fighting me earlier on about my call out on the potential issues, well here you go, the Avalon is out for review and drivers are ALREADY complaining about torque steer. It is relatively nose-heavy with the layout and has the other niggles that I have mentioned.

This is why I keep shouting to the car gods above that this current layout is not acceptable for a Lexus. It will not have the same cred as the GS or even an IS, and won't bring in any more customers with the exception of current ES customers and appliance buyers. It's an honest shame that they don't take any note from other manufacturers and continue to pursue their stubborn ways.

I'm not saying it won't be a hit, but it could have been much better.
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THANK YOU! I said the exact same thing before too! +1


For those who was fighting me earlier on about my call out on the potential issues, well here you go, the Avalon is out for review and drivers are ALREADY complaining about torque steer. It is relatively nose-heavy with the layout and has the other niggles that I have mentioned.

This is why I keep shouting to the car gods above that this current layout is not acceptable for a Lexus. It will not have the same cred as the GS or even an IS, and won't bring in any more customers with the exception of current ES customers and appliance buyers. It's an honest shame that they don't take any note from other manufacturers and continue to pursue their stubborn ways.

I'm not saying it won't be a hit, but it could have been much better.
literally every single review called new Avalon class leader with good driving dynamics.
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spwolf
literally every single review called new Avalon class leader with good driving dynamics.
Class leader in legroom, and many people outright said it has better driving dynamics but nothing that is wow factor. Don't think that I am trying to crap on TMC, because I am not. I just don't want Toyota to advertise something but end up falling short of it. Period.
mikeavelli
https://lexusenthusiast.com/forums/threads/introducing-the-all-new-2019-lexus-es-350-es-300h.4423/

Here are the specs.

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